The AJ "scared" double standards

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Utter bull**** and I'll show you why.
    Lets break it down!

    Ruiz is a short fat heavyweight with a solid chin that can throw fast combinations on the inside and is a faster combination puncher than anyone Fury has ever fought. Furthermore Deontay Wilder uses long range right hands and Klitschko uses his size to fight at long range and can fight at mid range at times if he's confident enough, therefore a case can be made that Ruiz is more dangerous to fight offensively and a reasonable tactic to fight Ruiz would be to outbox him at long distance.

    Yes Joshua had a power advantage but Ruiz was the shorter fighter with the shorter reach and Ruiz had the speed and chin advantage as well. Ruiz was better in the pocket and from what we saw. Joshua got beat down trying to fight Ruiz aggressively so him trying to outbox Ruiz is reasonable. Assuming Joshua should be the aggressor because has the size and reach advantage is stupid. Quite the Opposite. By your logic Lennox Lewis should have fought David Tua aggressively. Ruiz had all these pocket fighting advantages over Joshua. Kind of funny how you didn't pick up on them.

    Moreover !
    Joshua also fought toe to toe with Wlad

    Lastly,

    Yes Joshua contradicted himself criticizing Fury on fighting Wlad defensively but from i can tell, Fury is a LITERAL walking contradiction.
    Example 1: Fury claimed he'd fight Joshua in his first comback fight but then Fury claimed he didn't sign with Eddie Hearn because he didnt want to be rushed into big fights in his comeback.
    Example 2: Fury time and time again claims he doesn't care about the money but claimed he'd only fight Joshua if the purse is 50/50. Also why would Fury take the Wilder fight first if he claims time and time again that Joshua is an easier fight ?
    I can give you more examples if you want
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Look, can we stop all this chatter about Fury getting chinned. Yes I will concede that AJ is significantly better than that useless dosser from some little forsaken backwater town in Alabama.

    Yes I will concede that contrary to common belief gypsies aren't unbeatable and it is possible to not only hurt us but even knock us out if you're a savage punching KO artist who can land the right sequence of devastating blows on the right spot at the right time while we're fatiguing or completely out of gas.

    And yes I concede that AJ could conceivably be the right man to pull off such a feat. But let's not act like that mandible section of his is gypsy-proof or that Fury can't pop a bit himself when he wants to.

    Dave "The White Rhino" Allen said that Fury hit him the hardest out of everyone he shared a ring with and Malik Scott said that Fury bust both of his eardrums in the gym. AJ was fearful of a prehistoric Pulev's pit pats and I'm pretty sure he's not a gypsy despite emanating from Bulgaria.

    Let's have it right, AJ is still being haunted by the ghost of the beating a fat man administered to him and his poor man's version of Wlad ''new style'' might work against the Pulev's of the world but Fury ain't no senior citizen in the twilight of his career whose best days are well behind him in the rear view mirror.
     
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  3. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    In the first both where knoked down in the second one ran and one fought and stoped their opponent
     
  4. xnico

    xnico New Member banned Full Member

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    AJ ran no other way around it.

    AJs words on Fury-Klitschko: ”He ran, he stole the belts, he didnt slay the king”

    AJ ran against Ruiz this is using AJs own description
     
  5. Mickea4

    Mickea4 Active Member Full Member

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    Reading through this entire thread has been tiring, so many false equivalencies, so much dodgy logic, so much bias and so much hypocrisy.. now I remember why I stay out of Fury/AJ threads
     
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  6. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are quite ridiculous. I dont know how you can eat with Furys nuts in your mouth.
     
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  7. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Absolutely spot on

    I really don’t understand why people insist on making boxing such a complex issue in their head. I like both fighters, but when people spurt none sense like ‘big joshie’ you really do hope he wins - just to humble them.

    I do love the fact he talks about Ruiz being a blown up cruiser - and yet Fury was put down hard by Cunningham a few years ago

    But hey, like you said Jdub, whatever they can spin to fit the narrative huh...
     
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  8. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    Poor comparison.

    Weak thread.
     
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  9. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 banned Full Member

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    Joshua ran away from Ruiz in the rematch but didn't Fury run away from Klitschko and Wallin too?

    If Joshua blasted Ruiz away people would say he can't box and is reckless. Whatever he does people will complain and criticise.
     
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  10. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    I doubt Ruiz wins another world title. It will be a blemish on Joshua's record, losing to a fighter like that in his prime. Lewis had losses to McCall and Rahman, but they had some respectable wins against other contenders. The blob's win over the kfc bucket doesn't count. The bodybuilder should lower his head in shame. The punch stats in the second fight were pitiful. Lots of ten ten rounds, and I thought Ruiz had at least 3 rounds in the bank. Tap punches don't count.
     
  11. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dont bother dude... The guy is complete fanboy and hasn't got an ounce of critical thinking ability
     
  12. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your argument that it was not reasonable for AJ to fight Ruiz defensively is just completely flawed.

    Ruiz is clearly a very fast combination puncher with short hands/punches. Joseph Parker who also has fast hands had to limit himself in the pocket with Ruiz. Why would anyone want to risk their chances of fighting close up with him when they can cruise to points? I highly doubt someone like Fury would be able to walk down Ruiz and deal with him in the pocket. Might be possible but he would likely get caught.

    If 37 year old cruiserweight Cunningham can knock Fury down then I wouldn't be surprised if Fury got knocked down fighting up close with Ruiz.

    You say Ruiz is small, Wilders weight has historically been around 210lbs. He's basically a crusierweight. He fought at 230lb+ v Fury and look what happened.

    Yes Fury did fight toe to toe with Wlad in round.. And guess what it was a Wlad round, and you may deny it but there were 3 punches in round 12 which visibly hurt Fury. Fury really only went toe to toe in round 12 in Wlad and Wilder 1, so this is not saying much at all.

    This alll said I have 55-45, 60-40 in favour of Fury but I won't be surprised at all if AJ knocks him out. Furys best wins are against 39 yo Wlad via landing 1 or 2 scuff jabs more per round and a walking right hand who loses to the first person his own size, fairly young and a good boxer. As much as you think AJ is overhyped, which he is, Fury is just as if not more overhyped.

    All in all, **** biased logic youve presented.
     
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  13. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    Some of the stuff on here aye,

    Fury would demolish ruiz in close ffs.
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you being serious ? Based on what ?
     
  15. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Anthony Joshua fought just one fight cautiously, and yet has been heavily criticized for it.

    Floyd Mayweather fought ALL his fights safety-first, yet why did he get less criticism and so much praise?