The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd and his family, should have gone about things in a different manner.

    Look at how many promoters/fighters are asking for testing today?

    There's a lot.

    How many have of them have failed?
     
  2. Sweet Jones

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    Well, it's a great thing then that 'your knowledge' isn't the barometer on which these decisions are being debated on. Because it's been shown REPEATEDLY to all who post here what a blathering idiot you are.

    Caitlin and Conte>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mentally disabled children>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the ghost of Ken Norton (RIP)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dodong.

    Like I said: Kill yourself. Please.
     
  3. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    You my friend missed the entire point of my post. So pay attention while I rip your **** up.

    The offer could have been used as a starting point.

    Manny could have said, I will get back to you and picked up the phone and called, Bob Arum. Then he could have told Bob to stop with the stadium and cut talk in the media and return Shaefer's calls bc Floyd just offered him 40 million.
    I have said this time and time again that Floyd calling Manny should have never happen but the reason it happened is bc Arum wouldn't negotiate or answer the phone. Instead he said things in the media like, "why is Richard calling me" "where will Floyd get his guarantee."

    Floyd has every right to change his mind. So its okay for Manny to agree to full testing from the start and later back out and ask for cut offs? Is that okay?

    Floyd gave him a great cut off offer that was turned down. So lets get this straight.

    1) Team Pac agreed to do the testing from the start when Floyd requested it. (later changed their mind and wanted cut off)

    2) Floyd went from full testing to 14 day offer

    3) Team Pac went to 24 days and got caught lying saying Floyd never offered them a cut off

    4) Manny said he would do the blood testing just not the day of the fight but also said in the same interview that 14 days was too close to the fight.

    So its okay for Manny to accept full testing, back out of that and ask for cut offs only to turn down the cut off. Then when Floyd says no more cut offs he's in the wrong for not wanting to go back to 14 days? WTF.
     
  4. Sweet Jones

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    This is a strawman, as I never said that they were evidence.

    Those quotes were posted to answer the question YOU asked about what could be done in Pac's proposed window.

    And you completely ignore that Conte recommended going to 5 days, with 10 days being the 'compromise'.

    But keep on spinning, bot. Isht is hilarious.
     
  5. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    These tards bitching about the testing, but Manny is doing full OSDT with no cut offs Finally. :lol:
     
  6. Sweet Jones

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    Pacquiao himself, when given the opportunity to implement drug testing on HIS OWN accord, isn't using HIS OWN 24 day cut-off, post fight blood test proposal.

    And these loons are in here STILL arguing that it was sufficient.

    It's sad, really. :verysad
     
  7. HolyCityBully

    HolyCityBully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How come Manny doesnt need a cut off anymore?

    Has he recently gotten over his fear of needles and blood tests?

    They no longer weaken him for days?

    What happened?
     
  8. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    What happened? JMM is what happened. He got knocked the **** out and him and his legend of tards thought JMM was on something even though JMM offered him testing two times.

    "I am offering for me and Manny to do OSDT of blood and urine" JMM

    "silence from Team Pac"

    After JMM nuked him with that right hand..."We should have asked for testing" Team Pac
     
  9. dodong

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    i don't understand why you're still trying to argue for synthetic epo as the drug that pac could cheat from since that's the only accepted method of detection is through urine testing which pac has always, always agreed to do.

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    from wada's website itself.
     
  10. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    what a load of BS.

    why or how would anybody microdose a blood transfusion that won't be detected by urine testing or by blood testing unless they look for indirect markers for which they could do since pac has agreed to give a postfight blood test sample anyway.

    ...and again with epo, the only accepted method by wada/usada in direct detection for the use is through urine testing.

    ...and all known anabolic steroid are detectable through urine testing.
     
  11. brendo

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    So you want to quote from the wada website, why dont you read your own quotes?


    The typical doping control approach based on the detection of prohibited substance or their metabolites in an athlete’s sample remains an effective approach; however it has limitations when an athlete may be using substances on an intermittent and/or low-dose basis. Furthermore, new substances or modifications of prohibited substances (e.g. designer drugs) may be difficult to detect by conventional analytical means. In recent years, doping regimes have become much more scientifically planned and have taken advantage of the weaknesses in traditional protocols. This underscores the need for a more sophisticated and complementary strategy to effectively fight doping, namely, the Athlete Biological Passport.
     
  12. Sweet Jones

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    Again, this is a strawman.

    I never argued that Pac would use synthetic EPO.

    I posted what 2 experts stated could be done within a 24 day window. Are you going to keep ignoring that Conte said this:

    or that Caitlin said this:

    Oh, and address your OWN article which states:

    Now, that's two citations (one from an expert) stating that blood testing is more effective for catching CERA (the drug YOU keep bringing up).

    There's another expert listing MULTIPLE things (besides EPO) that could be done within a 24 day window.

    Stop bruh. Save whatever dignity you have left and stop this madness.
     
  13. brendo

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    Ok, not sure why, but i'm going to try one final time. Since you don't seem to be able to grasp the science i'm going to use quotes:

    Testosterone:
    "Keith Kizer of the Nevada State Athletic Commission admitted in an interview that standard Nevada urine drug tests would not have caught Lamont Peterson’s testosterone usage"

    http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/a-crash-course-on-testosterone-hypgonadism-and-doping/

    So he could have used testosterone micro-dosing.


    EPO: From the WADA website, which i assume you agree with since you have quoted it.
    The typical doping control approach based on the detection of prohibited substance or their metabolites in an athlete’s sample remains an effective approach; however it has limitations when an athlete may be using substances on an intermittent and/or low-dose basis.

    again from the WADA website: This report also recommended that urine testing be used in conjunction with blood screening

    So you must admit that the urine test has its "limitations" when athletes use micro-dosing.

    The blood test's would not have been able to distiguish whether it was EPO or another form of blood doping, but they would have caught micro-dosing EPO, and as i've said this has been used to ban athletes before.

    SO: he could have used testosterone (micro-dosing) , EPO (micro-dosing) with urine testing over the 14 days but without blood testing!!
     
  14. Tekniqs

    Tekniqs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    and yet you bolded urine/blood....reading comprehension please
     
  15. Str8ryte

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    Mannys ***** ass excuses hold no water because floyd would take the same damn tests. Blame the dude that turned down 40 mil.
     
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