The Best Heavyweight Since Ali?

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  1. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who could ever beat LL h2h in 2 out of 3 ?
    Get a clue, non of the old timers would even have a shot.

    You think foreman was huge back then yet LL towers over him and hits way harder with 100% more skill

    So who you got ?
     
  2. Jim Bowen

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    I know mate. I never usually have a problem with fantasy fights, but for some reason whenever people bring this one up I just can't accept it because of the trainer thing, maybe because they were quite close in their careers that I always asume people mean what would happen if Lennox took on Wlad after the Vitali fight rather than prime for prime. I know its irrational :lol:.
     
  3. dinovelvet

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    What made Wlad prime from '06-'10? The fact he ceased getting blown out by fighting complete average men and cheating them to death:patsch

    How does beating nothing men like Brock, Chambers, shot 2 **** Rahman, Austin etc determine he was prime and wasn't the same guy who got obliterated by Sanders, Brewster and had to quit against a bum like Williamson.
    He looked the exact same to me only with extra holding against worse opposition.
    Who in that period did he beat that gives him the beating of Lewis?

    Lewis might of been susceptible to a right hand in two fights but Wlad is susceptible to any and every type of punch full stop.

    If the Lewis jab buckled Vitali's kness , it would knock Wlad out for the full 10 count.
     
  4. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's between Holmes and Lewis. The Klitschkos don't even come into it.
     
  5. Madmanc

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    The best fighter by a mile is early Tyson,there is no question about it
     
  6. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Why is vitali Klitschko in the discussion?
     
  7. praetorianJJ

    praetorianJJ Conqueror of Worlds Full Member

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    Although it could have and should have been Bowe, I'd go with Lennox
     
  8. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just an idiota can say Tyson's loss is a shame by the prime Douglas.
    Douglas was far better fighter than Rahman,Mccall,Puritty,Sanders or Brewster.
    He beat the prime McCall.The prime McCall destroyed the prime Lewis in the second round.
    He beat Berbick,Page,Cobb.
    Plus Tyson could knock him down. Douglas was lucky but good against Tyson.
    It was Tyson's 11. world title fight. And 38. pro fight.
    What do some idiotic Tyson haters expect a 100-0 record in the steroid era?
    It's ridicolous.What about wladimir klitschko's Puritty loss?
    Wladimir klitschko was in his prime but he was a nobody.
    I think he has/ had a rich background and a total bum destroyed him.
    wladimir is an ungifted fighter.The Puritty fight proved this:no chin,no stamina,
    mediocre skill it's based on experience,no reflex,no power,no speed...
    He looks good against bums and/or old and/or unathletic and/or out of shape
    fighters.
    Klitschko fans ! What are wladimir's best wins?
    I think we wanna know! Convience us.But don't use these typical excuses
    about the sizes,"money" steward's opinion or his carrier longevity or false conceptional
    statistical analysis,nationality etc.!

    Just say 20 good wladimir klitschko wins without crap blah-blah !
     
  9. Imperial1

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    Please the guy who got dusted by Tyson's former sparring partner and laid out by Haseem Rahman ..prime Holyfield beats the breaks off him and Holmes puts on a clinic against him
     
  10. praetorianJJ

    praetorianJJ Conqueror of Worlds Full Member

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    Holmes could beat him, yes. Holyfield, no.
     
  11. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I disagreehe was knocked out twice but beat every man he faced. . I don't know anyone that could beat him 2 outta 3. No one.

    Holmes is a good shout but I don't think he hangs very long with lewis..
     
  12. praetorianJJ

    praetorianJJ Conqueror of Worlds Full Member

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    I don't see Lewis(except maybe a very young Lewis)pursuing Holmes with any veracity.
     
  13. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When facing a good fighter lewis turned very aggressive which is very bad for any opponent
     
  14. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Holmes or Lewis. Holmes was more dominant and consistent going undefeated for a long time but Lewis faced better opposition.
     
  15. Imperial1

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    He struggled with an old Holyfield in their rematch a prime one finishes him.

    And Holmes was twice the boxer Rahaman,McCall and even Mercer was ..Yet they gave LL fits I could only imagine what Holmes does to him..