The Brown Bomber vs Big George.

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  1. The Kurgan

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    Just because others are stupid, it gives you no more lisence to be. Paper chin? Don't be willfully obtuse.
     
  2. McGrain

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    I like you.
     
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    Do you have eyes?
     
  4. McGrain

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    This is the shittest post i've ever read.
     
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    Like Ali, he'd fire quick counter-punches. Louis's hands were almost as fast as Ali's, his punchers far harder, and his punch variety/technique far greater.

    As Jimmy Young and Ron Lyle showed, you don't have to lay on the ropes to make Foreman look ridiculous. Jimmy Young, on that night, moved only mildly faster than Louis did on the back foot.

    What exactly is Foreman going to do? If he punches to the body, he has to lean down at a 90 degree angle. Because of his lack of head movement or peek-a-boo defense, Foreman is going to get NAILED and probably knocked down if he does down to the body against Louis.

    Out-jab Louis? Hardly. Foreman's slower handspeed leave him open to a counter overhand right by Louis, and his tactic of sticking out his own right to block jabs is going to get him hit by left hooks.

    If Foreman just unloads, he's hitting the canvas FAST. Given the way he swung his punches, he'd practically be head-butting Louis's counter punches.
     
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    Comparing Schmeling's mastery of counter-punching with a windmill like Foreman is insulting to the entire German people. Foreman couldn't throw a right hand with anywhere near the technique of Schmeling until he came back smarter and fatter in the 1980s/1990s.
     
  7. KTFO

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    No.


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  8. The Kurgan

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    Now you're resorting to name-calling. Foreman's overhand right was NOT a good punch. It was telegraphed and clubbing, which is why he never knocked anyone out with it.

    Given that Foreman had neither the counter-punching ability nor handspeed of Schmeling, it's ludicrous to imagine him successfully using the same strategy.
     
  9. KTFO

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    That windmill destroyed Frazier big time,my friend.
     
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    That's an interesting coincidence: I like me as well. ;)
     
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    Windmills tend to if you rush right into their blades. Louis isn't going to come straight at Foreman open for uppercuts and standing straight in front of Foreman.
     
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    Foreman and Frazier are on different ends of the same scale.

    You are now resorting to picking out tiny peices of posts and offering single remarks instead of answering the questions that are being asked of you.
     
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    I think he's worked out that he lacks a case. Styles make fights, and a brawler like Foreman is made for a counter-punching extraodinare boxer-puncher like Louis.
     
  14. KTFO

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    DON'T, I repeat, DO NOT ask any questions!

    Because I don't have to respond to someone who argues a KO1 by Louis. Simply ridiculous and totally dreamland.
     
  15. McGrain

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    Well I wasn't actually talking about the questions that i've asked you.

    As far as my position goes i've laid it out in detail (unlike you), you can read the details at any point and refute them as it is so clearly easy to do.