The chinny Lennox Lewis myth

Rahman and McCall "highly rated" lol

Rahman started boxing as a adult, was slow and a basic bread and butter one two fighter whose claim to fame is getting bounced out of the ring a couple of times by glass chin Oleg and one shot stopping Lemmie and looked for a way out because of a small cut before he landed and looked absolute shid for the entire fight.

McCracken was Mike Tyson's favorite heavybag whose other claim to fame is one shot stopping Lemmie. McCall only talent he ever had was taking a good shot, nothing more or less.

Both fighters were never known to be concussive punchers,ever, their punch reputation comes from icing mediocre chinned Lennox Lewis, both never ever stopped anybody of significance unless you think Sanders, Akinwande or Oleg are better than C level fighters.

Btw, Akinwande had Lemmie down.

 

Lewis chin obviously wasn't top notch. I'm not sure how that can be argued.

 

I havent taken any part of the Holmes v Lewis ( chin) debate. I just struggle full stop with Lennox being labelled chinny by a few people. If you fought as often as he did,chances are you're gonna get tagged somewhere.
I mentioned Foreman being decked more often,but never heard him called chinny.
BTW i dont think any of these guys are chinny. Chinny to me is a fighter who goes over easy and often from not particularly big blows. None of these guys would have got to be household names if they were that chinny to begin with.

 

Lummox Lewis had a terrible chin he got knocked out twice by cherry picks who were not big punchers either

 

I think what needs to be addressed here is that chinny is used only to describe somebody who has been knocked out before.

There is is this bull crap misconception that people are born with this chin that cannot hold a punch and that some world class, champions indeed posess this disorder. It is ludicrous.

Everyone can potentially be knocked out.

 

What is your argument here though? That some people aren't born with better chins than others?

 

It can be argued because he fought roughly 150 times, and three people KNOCKED HIM DOWN - amateur and pro combined.

In the meantime, he won the Olympic Gold Medal, won the world heavyweight championship, retired as heavyweight champ and beat everyone he faced as a pro.

Name 10 heavyweights you think had a better chin than Lennox Lewis, and I bet the majority of them were down more times than Lewis, lost to lesser competition than Lewis, never beat everyone they fought and never achieved what he did.

I'm not sure claiming he had a bad chin can be argued. It's kind of a ludicrous statement, to be honest with you.

You can't win every major title and beat everyone you fought as a pro and have a bad chin.

If his chin was not top notch, then NOBODY's was.

 

Totally agree.

 

Chinny in boxing is someone who has a weak chin. They get hurt easily. They go down a lot. They get knocked out a lot. They can't depend on their chin, essentially.

If you are a dominant heavyweight champion who beat everyone you fought, and you only went down two times, you aren't "chinny."

 

I don't think he has a bad chin, I'd say his chin is above average, but what I wouldn't call it is elite. For example, Marciano was never one punch KO'd. Neither was Foreman. Neither was Frazier. Neither was Ali. Neither was Johnson really until he was old... fat.. and 37 years old. Holmes wasn't one shot KO'd. Most of these men were down, and sometimes more than Lewis, the difference is, they either got up and won or they generally got up. Those are just some off the top of my head. That isn't even mentioning Jefferies... Tunney... etc etc. So I'm not sure if you're trying to say Lewis chin is top ten HW material, because that I can't get behind.

 

I dont think "chinny" in the way it is used even exists.

Some burnt out fighters, damaged fighters, cannot hold a punch. But that is different. They don't start out like that.

Errol Christie is a great example his legs just would not respond anymore. The Combination of a lifetime fighting the weight, long hard full time amateur career and bad concussions in the pros took its toll on even a good fighter. He was not born that way.

A fighter thrown to the wolves, overmatched each time, beat each time, will appear chinny from day one. But only because he is overmatched. There is a level where it won't get exposed.

The same guy properly guided from day one won't appear to have so bad of a chin. But after so many concussions out of his depth, with wear and tear, even with the best training he could drop a level and still find disaster because his resistance is shot.

This business of a weak chin has gotten out of control.

 

Lol @ comparing lewis and holmes chin and mental toughness.

Old fat holmes had no problems taking mccall shots, and schooled mercer.
Lewis got iced by mccall and went life and death with mercer ffs.

Old holmes took maybe the hardest right hand tyson ever threw and got up, lewis was out cold from a right hand from rahman, made no attempt to beat the count.

Holmes had a way better chin and was a lot tougher.

 

Holmes got up from good punches and Lewis didn't. So what. Looking at each punch on an individual basis how can you say one punch stands for the entire quality of every punch that man ever threw? Was every McCall punch equal to the punch that put Lewis down? Did he get the exact connection each time? Was the distance right each time? Did each opponent walk onto every jab or scoring punch McCall ever threw to create that Sunday punch effect? Of course not.

Holmes not going down against McCall might just be because Larry anticipated him better.

The Rahman punch was a perfect connection. A genuine knockout punch. The slow motion replay shows no riding of that blow at all. It goes through the target turning Lewis's head. You freeze any fighter he is going over from less than that if he's not riding with that punch.

How do you know the hardest right hander Tyson ever threw was the connection he got on Holmes?. You didn't feel it.

Being more susceptible to a big punch is okay to say. Writing off a great fighter as being more weak jawed is very silly.

 

Lennox Lewis has a pretty good chin. He took direct hits to the face from Frank Bruno, Shannon Briggs, Vitali Klitschko, David Tua and an aging Tyson. Is his chin as solid as Larry Holmes, Muhammad Ali, Evander Holyfield, etc? No. Why ? Because those guys stood up to a better group of elite hitters and were never stopped by medicrities. Holyfield being stopped by James Toney is the only example that comes close but evander was finished when that fight happened. This is how you have to judge these things.

 

Does not matter. He was koed by two fighters by single shots. It's a huge Mark against his all time ranking. Rahman and McCall were not top tier hwts. Even with this Mark against him he still rates very high all time....top five-six. A focused Lewis was a tough hwt to beat.