The Cross Guard and its users

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  1. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

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    Are there any contemporary boxers of note who fight out of the cross guard? By "fighting out " I mean using it as the standard guard, not sporadically.

    Also, how do you block a left hook while using the cross arm guard?
     
  2. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot El gran campeón Mexicano Full Member

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    I think only tony and not even sure how much he used it
     
  3. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot El gran campeón Mexicano Full Member

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    Maybe foreman as well
     
  4. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bert Cooper too iirc
     
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  5. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

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    When did Toney use it?
     
  6. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

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    Chisora looks decent using it Vs lesser opposition
     
  7. Conteh'sLeft

    Conteh'sLeft Active Member Full Member

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    Holyfield used it too apart from Foreman but Archie Moore was its best user.
     
  8. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    Yes he did but Holyfield had no problem ripping left hooks through it.
     
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  9. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ken Norton and Gene Fullmer both used the guard quite well. Fullmer in particular had a very weird reverse cross armed guard. Archie Moore also used the crab guard quite well, probably the best of anyone.
     
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  10. Bumnard_Hopkins

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    If you stand squared up with your right arm crossing your chest then it is almost impossible to stop a left hook from crashing into your temple.

    Moore used his elbow to stop that hook to his temple. I don't know how anyone could raise his elbow quickly enough to block a fast lead left to the head.
     
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  11. RealDeal

    RealDeal Active Member Full Member

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    You’re supposed to duck the left hook in the cross guard.
     
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  12. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

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    Makes me wonder how Moore in his 40s could do that.
     
  13. northpaw

    northpaw Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chad Dawson used it sometimes. He didn't use it consistent enough though. 90's Foreman and Holyfield would be the best contemporary examples of using it correctly. Very difficult to pull off.
     
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  14. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I use this defence when my wife steams me when I come home really late, maybe 3am, too drunk and have said I'll be home by 8pm

    It confuses her, she's a southpaw so it helps me..
     
  15. Bumnard_Hopkins

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    Terrible Tim used to continuously move his right glove across his face, from the front (to catch jabs) to his right ear (intercept hooks).
     
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