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I think that the tactics of Hagler would be too straight forward for Monzon...:yep The come forward Southpaw style of Hagler would create plenty of openings for him to get his shots off...:yep

I think the wear and tear would take it's toll from the 10th for Hagler to take at least 3 out of the last 5 rounds...:yep

Was there ever a fantasy fight poster in the Lounge about this fight...:think

How have you got it Gaz...:think

 

WHAT TIME IS IT!!!



Name: Aaron Pryor
Alias: Hawk
Born: 1955-10-20
Birthplace: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
Nationality: US American
Hometown: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
Stance: Orthodox
Height: 5′ 6½″ / 169cm


Amateur Record: 204-16
1973 National AAU Champion (132 lbs) - Outpointed Robert Newton of Boston
1975 National Golden Gloves (132 lbs) Champion
1976 US Olympic Alternate (132 lbs)
1976 National Golden Gloves lightweight Champion - Outpointed Thomas Hearns of Detroit.


Professional Record: 39-1 (35 KOs)
WBA Light Welterweight Champion 1980-1983
IBF Light Welterweight Champion 1983-1985

Pryor turned professional on November 11, 1976, with a win over Larry Smith. In 1977, Pryor fought eight fights, winning all but two by knockout. The only two fighters who heard the final bell versus Pryor that year were Johnny Summerhayes and Jose Resto. After the fight with Summerhayes, Pryor won 26 fights in a row by knockout, in one of the longest knockout streaks in the history of boxing.

In 1978, Pryor won five fights, and in 1979 he won six. However, during 1979, Pryor experienced a rise in competition level, and in his last fight that year, he was pitted for the first time ever against a former or future world champion, when he faced former Junior Welterweight champion of the world Alfonso Fraser, Peppermint, of Panama, who lasted five rounds with The Hawk. After that fight, Pryor entered the WBA rankings.

He only kept on going up in the rankings for the first part of 1980. He beat Julio Valdez, Leonidas Asprilla and Carl Crowley before a world title bout was set up by the WBA, versus two time world champion Antonio Cervantes of Colombia at Cincinnati. Pryor was dropped in round one, but he rose and knocked out Cervantes in round four in front of a national television audience, becoming a world champion. He finished the year knocking out Gaetan Hart to retain his title.

1981 brought Pryor up to the ring against Lennox Blackmore and Dujuan Johnson. Pryor beat Blackmore in two rounds, but had to work more against Johnson, once again visiting the floor in round one before winning by knockout in six.

In 1982 he defeated fringe contender Miguel Montilla by a knockout in 12 to begin the year, then put his title on the line versus Akio Kameda. Once again, Pryor went to the floor in round one but got up to knock the Japanese challenger out in round six.

In what promoter Bob Arum nicknamed The Battle of The Champions, Pryor defeated Alexis Argüello by a technical knockout in 14 in front of an HBO audience. The fight was named Fight of the Year and later the Fight of the Decade by The Ring.

The fight sparked controversy however, because Pryor's trainer, Panama Lewis, introduced a second water bottle which he described as "the bottle I mixed" after round 13, leading to speculation that the bottle was tainted. The Florida State Boxing Commission failed to administer a post-fight urine test, adding to speculation that the bottle contained an unsanctioned substance. Pryor and Arguello met after the fight and Arguello asked Pryor if there was a substance in the bottle. Pryor told Arguello there wasn't anything in the bottle that gave him an advantage.

Panama Lewis later revealed on several occasions that the mixture was merely "tap water mixed with Perrier water. Thats all." In a 2009 documentary, former Lewis-trained boxer Luis Resto revealed that Panama Lewis would also break apart antihistamine pills and pour the medicine into his water, giving him greater lung capacity in the later rounds of a fight. This revelation fueled further speculation as to whether Lewis had added an unsanctioned substance to Pryor's water in his bout with Arguello.

It should also be noted that in Pryor-Arguello 2, there was no mixed bottle and Pryor still savagely beat Arguello particularly in the later rounds.[1][2][3]

In 1983, after defending his crown against former WBC world champion Sang-Hyun Kim (KO 3), Pryor defended against Arguello again, this time winning by a knockout in 10 rounds.

1st Retirement
After the fight, both Pryor and Arguello announced their retirement, with Pryor leaving the WBA crown vacant.

Pryor took back his decision of retiring soon after, however, and the IBF immediately recognized him as their world champion. 1984 proved to be a frustrating year for Pryor. His proposed fight with world Lightweight champion Ray Mancini fell through when Mancini lost his title against Livingstone Bramble, and Pryor was able to defend his IBF world title only once, against Nick Furlano, who became the first guy in 27 fights to last the distance with Pryor, losing to Pryor on points in 15 rounds in Canada.

In 1985, Pryor would only fight once, retaining his title versus future world champion Gary Hinton in 15 rounds, again by points

Second retirement
After the win over Hinton, Pryor retired and began to have drug problems

Final retirement
In 1990 it was discovered that Pryor had been fighting with eye problems, and he was never allowed to box again.

In 1996, Pryor was elected to the International Boxing Hall Of Fame.

He retired with 39 wins, 1 loss and 35 wins by knockout.

[edit] Personal life
Pryor lives in his hometown of Cincinnati with his wife, Frankie Pryor, and their four children – Aaron, Jr., Antwan, Stephan, and Elizabeth. Pryor is an ordained deacon at New Friendship Baptist Church and travels the world making personal appearances and spreading his anti-drug message. In the 1990s, Pryor opened a gym in his hometown where he helps children learn boxing and stay off the streets. He remains active in the sport of boxing training both professional and Golden Gloves amateur boxers. The Pryor boxing legacy continues today with Aaron, Jr. and Stephan following in their dad's footsteps.


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What was the point of that spud? You have literally just copied the entire wikipedia article on Pryor and linked the first 5 videos from Youtube. That isn't helpful at all.

EDIT: Okay, apologies buddy, that wasn't a personal attack and I've now seen that's what everybody has done. I don't think this is a helpful thread at all when people are copying entire articles from wikipedia.

I think it should be a rule that you have to right it up yourself, and include an overview of their fighting style, strengths/weaknesses as well, and linking a video showing one of their best performances.

 

A topical fighter even if some people will no all about him i will try a older fighter later

Name: Robin "Grim Reaper" Reid

Division: Super Middleweight

Residence: Runcorn, Cheshire, England

Height and Reach: 5'9 and 76"

Amateur Highlights

2nd at light middleweight at Junior World Championships in Bayamon, Puerto Rico in 1989

3rd at light middleweight in ABA championships in 1990

1st place at Canada Cup as a Light Middleweight in 1992

Light Middleweight Bronze Medal for Great Britain at the 1992 Olympics in Barcelona, Spain

Pro Career Highlights

World Boxing Federation Super Middleweight Champion from 5-19-2001 to 10-7-2002 winning then defending five times

World Boxing Council Super Middleweight Champion from 12-10-1996 to 19-12-1997

Won the title against by KO in the seventh round against Vincenzo Nardiello in Italy. Reid then lost his title four fights later by unanimous decision to Thulani Malinga at the new london arena

On the 26th June 2004 Reid won the International Boxing Organisation Super Middleweight Championship against Brian Magee at the Kings Hall in Belfast Ireland sending Magee to the canvass four times whilst obtaining a unanimous decision

Career

Reid turned professional in 1993 whit a first round knockout of Mark Lee Dawson.

He would then go on to amass a record of 21 win and one draw that coming in 1993 against Danny Juma over the six round distance

With a impressive record the time was right for Reid to step up to championship class when he traveled to Italy in 1996 to take on then WBC world champion Vincenzo Nardiello. Reid upset the champion knocking him out in the seventh round to become champion of the world

Reid would defend the title a further three times with victories over Giovanni Pretorius, Henry Wharton and Hacine Cherifi. On the 19th december 1997 Reid faced former world champion and outsider Thulani Malinga and was beat by unanimous decision at the new London arena

After over a year of being the outsider looking in and only having the one fight Reid would challenge new kid on the block the WBO world champion Joe Calzaghe at the telewest arena in Newcastle. Calzaghe winning a split decision in which many saw as Calzaghe toughest fight of his career. After the fight Reid demanded a rematch but non was forthcoming

Reid was pushed into the boxing wilderness losing out to Silvio Branco in challenge for the WBU super middleweight title

Reid then won the WBF championship holding the title for 2 years defending it in united kingdom

Having waited patientlly for a way back to the top and a rematch with calzaghe. Reid was handed a shot at the WBA and IBF champion Sven Ottke in Nuernberg, Germany in december 2003. Despite seemingley being on top in the fight Reid lost a unanimous pionts decision to the home fighter and later complained bout the performance of referee Roger Tileman

Reid bounced back in 2004 points win over previously undefeated Brian Magee in Belfast, dropping the Ulsterman four times to win the IBO super-middleweight title

The Magee fight gave Reid plenty of hope going into the Lacy fight, but problems in the build up did nothing to help Reid's preparations, and when the slaughter was eventually halted, he was 13 points adrift on all three judge's scorecards

After the Lacy fight Reid returned in 2007 for the contender TV show against american Jesse Brinkley securing a unanimous points victory

In the 9th November 2007 Reid stepped into the ring with future two title world champion Carl Froch which ended with Reid losing the fight in the fifth round and announcing his retirement soon after the fight

In January 2011 Reid announced his return to the ring by entering the prizefighter tournament on the 23rd March 2011 but will first have a worm up against Jamie Ambler on the 26th February 2011 in Bolton wining 39-38 on points



Video Footage

Sven Ottke vs Robin Reid
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Joe Clazaghe vs Robin Reid
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Jeff Lacy vs Robin Reid
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Jesse Brinkley vs Robin Reid
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Carl Froch vs Robin Reid
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I refute these claims of wikipedia mass copy and pasting! I for one wrote mine from memory :deal (only used boxrec for D.O.B height/cm as was Mandandas original post) :good

 

Eh??? Nowt wrong about using boxrec for height/reach stats

If I can't remember a fighters name I just admit it though :rofl I consider that a failing of my memory. I shouldn't cheat and act like I always know what I'm on about.

Hell, Ive been calling Koji Sato, Keiji for about a year so what do I know.

 

I for one used 4 different sources (including Wiki) to write mine. I also used Boxrec to see dates of fights, records of Wilde's opponents etc.

And I agree, copy and pasting from Wiki is plain lazy at best, and an insult to the thread at worst.

 

Flea has came out of "miserable *******" mode:happy:yep

 

The amount of plagiarism in this thread...

 

Who used wiki I looked on there and they don't even really mention reids fight with calzaghe

Took me a hour to make most of it up form the top of my head

 

This is a myth perpetuated by my man Slip. I've never gone intonthis Coccoon of despair I hear everyone going on about. I'm harsh to people, but not because I think I have the right to, just because it's fun.

Don't worry I still think Kell Brook and Andre Berto are ****, JCC Jr will get destroyed as soon as he makes that step up, the old days were better, the props Floyd gets is the coming of the Four Horseman, and that modern conditioning doesn't make the fighters to superior to those of yesteryear.

Man, I ate a big hash cake a few hours ago. Sweating.