The Fix In The Jungle?

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  1. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's only know as 1 of d dirtiest fighters of all times . Nothing crooked at all about him . Well , that and doping Foreman in Zaire , and telling him 2 dehydrate pre fight , and telling him 2 stay down . And a few more things , probably , but y do u care about it ?


    anyway , cheating in fight is cheating in life , and any1 who hires a cheater deserves what Foreman got . Hiring that cheater cost Foreman lots of money , respect and depression . I wonder if he knew what a cheater Saddler was as a fighter .
     
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    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :thumbsup:deal

    very good job
     
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    Surely that was a different Saddler.
     
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    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i really wondered how sandy = dick . not d same 1 really .

    quote from boxrec : http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Dick_Sadler
    So did Saddler have connections 2d maffia as well ?
    after all he "helped" 2 "train" Liston , Ali & Wright as well .
    don't know a thing about Charlie Shipes and never read a thing about him but does that also reflect on Freddie Little on which i only know he was a 154 lber ?
     
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    He was described as Liston's manager in the late 1960s.
     
  6. BillB

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    Saddler managed Liston the last few years of Liston's life. I'm sure there was no Mafia involvement :rofl
     
  7. Senor Pepe'

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    Sonny was 'disconnected' from the 'main hoodlum scene' after 1965.

    He was part of the Las Vegas 'inside crew' from 1966 and on.

    Davey Pearl was also Sonny's 'manager of record' in 1969 and 1970.
     
  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dick Sadler was also a pianist of no mean skill. Okay,it's not really relevant,but just as meaningful as some of the bollocks that's coming out on this thread :D
     
  9. Senor Pepe'

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    Didn't Muhammad Ali hire a 'witch doctor woman' in Zaire, to sap the stength of George Foreman.

    I think she was related to 'Stepin Fetchit'

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  10. Stevie G

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    I've heard nothing of that,Pepe. What I do remember reading was that Jean-Pierre Coopman was approached by a Puerto Rican witch who told him that she could summon up the ghosts of her country's legendary generals and they'd fight Muhammad Ali alongside him. Coopman refused the offer. No doubt he felt that the champagne he was necking during the inter round breaks would be more of a constructive help. At least he got beaten up with a smile on his face.
     
  11. BillB

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    Liston was very close friends with Ashe Resnick during his Las Vegas years.
    Resnick owned the Thunderbird and was a part of the New York Mob.

    Actually, his relationship with Resnick dated back farther than that. Resnick may have been involved in the Clay fixes.
     
  12. Senor Pepe'

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    Sonny Liston and Ashe Resnick 'partnered up' in 1963.

    It was during the Floyd Patterson II fight, as Sonny used the Thunderbird Hotel
    as a 'secondary training camp' and 'hoodlum meeting area'.

    Some say, Ashe was 'brought in' took take control of Sonny, who was behaving very badly in 1963 and early-1964.
     
  13. BillB

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    We may have a solid link from the Clay fixes all the way to Zaire.

    Liston- Resnick- Saddler. If such a link existed, Ali was the perpetual beneficiary of it.

    Was Elijah Muhammad or Farrakhan connected to the mob?
     
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  15. Stevie G

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    Only The NOI.