The Fury vs. K2 Debate Thread

Navigator knows his sheeeet.

respect to ra-al for showing an iron chin, but that was a conclusive L.

 

Wlad just took a straight shot to the face from a huge puncher like Wlad. Wlad must have an iron chin.

 

So, the two best heavyweights of the last 15 years both uppercut themselves in the face. Neither were afraid of their own power. Bravery!

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haha

 

Fury kinda supports the argument that prime isn't a factor when guys uppercut themselves. Klitschko just couldn't box up close and the Jennings fight showed why.
Here's another example of self uppercutting . Again , being "done" has nothing to do with it.

https://thesignaldotbiz.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/povet-huck8.gif?w=364&h=239

 

I like Fury and the Klit bros.

 

Fury outboxes Vitali too. Fury is the perfect guy to beat him, actually. Corrie Sanders tried taking Vitali out in a firefight, and landed a lot of big shots but couldn't crack the chin, so he himself was worn down. Fury wouldn't bother trying to KO Vitali. Fury is longer and I think significantly faster. Vitali was used to having the size and reach advantage, just like his brother, but not just that, good athleticism at that size and in Vitali's case, a very good engine. Vitali wouldn't have any of those advantages over Fury.

People will have the idea Vitali can just walk Fury down, take his feathers, and beat him up. That he won't be as hesitant as Wlad. When Fury is faster and more elusive, it's not so easy. Fury isn't going to stand there and be beaten up. And what's more, Vitali doesn't hit as hard as Wlad, so Fury can afford to take some shots, he's not just going to go down in a heap if Vitali lands.

Fury UD Wlad
Fury UD Vitali

Team Fury gypo streetsmarts > K2 glove and bouncy mat cheating

Also,

Fury's marriage > Wlad's liberated mistress
Fury's pregnant wife supporting him at the fight > Wlad's debauched Hollytart in rehab to cope with post natal loss of partying
Fury's five and counting children > Wlad's one flingchild
Fury's accurate assessment of certain cultural realities > Wlad's posturing PC vomit

Fury > K2

 

I have absolutely no idea what this thread is about, as there is a lot of discussion about self-uppercutting, but I agree with you. I like all three.

I do think that Fury has the potential to climb higher than the Klits. People love Vitali, and give him a lot of credit for being a tough head-to-head fighter, but his resume is thin. Wladdy has a thicker resume, but still never beat a great, and the losses are a bit more of a black mark.

Of course they never faced each other, but chose to co-dominate the post Lennox Lewis era.

I think both are greats, but Fury, who has no losses, a win over at least one great already, and who can stand on top of the pyramid alone if he beats Joshua, can climb higher. He just has to figure out how to put together a string of consistently good victories, which is something he has not yet done in his now twelve-year career.

 

Fury
Wlad

Vitali

In that order.

 

Wlad's biggest problem was that he never managed to put all his tools togheter - at the same time in his career - against top opposition. Either he ran into a tko gased or not or he fought to cautious giving away the initiative. To mechanical mindset post steward. Even past his best version of himself he should still have beaten that pre prime Joshua in my honest opinion. But he failed due to his lack of fighting spirit safety first approach calculated boxing game. Like a chess engine.

Vitali had a better fighting spirit in my opinion. But thats it. Chinwise they are almost about the same. Sanders had problem reaching Vitali's chin due to his height combined with reaction based lean back style. But he still dropped him during the fight, demonstrated he was far from "iron chinned" He Always got away with fighting small and short plodders. Thats why his reaction based low guard lean back style were effective, getting clipped just here and there shaking it away. Also both Klitschos cut easily due to their prominent facial eyebrow ridge structures. He outboxed a fat, old and out of shape Lewis. Just took some desperate uppercut from Lewis. But point is this: look at Wlad's face after "the Most boring fight in hw's history" and then watch Vitali's face after old fat and out of shape Lewis. He ate way more jabs than Wlad did against Fury. But Fury still Destroyed his face. A desperate and exhausted Lewis had no problem finding that jab in which turned to a gift descision. Fury has a much better jab Than Lewis and he carries a heavier weight much better than Lewis has much better inside and outside game than Lewis. Vitali would look like a dummy against Fury. This is the easiest cut win to predict. His style would just not work against Fury's.

 

Wlad never fought a great because there were no greats left to fight. The closest was an Old Holyfield who tried to get a fight with either of them, but Klitschkos had too much respect for him to beat his brains in.

 

If Holyfield hadn't lost to Iggy he'd have got a Wlad fight. No doubt Wlad would have fought him.

 

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