The Gatti Saga Continues...

Somebody murdered him and u would think she was involved. That article is pretty ominous at the end saying people don't want the story to come out. I hope the wife wasn't invovled for Joe's sake and hope he wasn't seduced by her.

 

He offed himself, get over it

 

what about the fact as well that he changed his will to send everything to her when he dies, like 3 weeks before he died.

 

That's the same thing his brother is thinking!

 

They already explained that the purse strap "not being able to support" his weight was inconclusive. "Creep" we call it in engineering. You put a load on something for an extended period of time and it weakens it.

As far as the marks being smaller than the width of the purse strap, I'm not totally sure I buy that part. They showed it autopsy photo, and it sure as hell looked about the width of a purse strap. Not to mention the thing is going to fold if his chin is tucked.

Point of it being, the idea that his wife made an elaborate scheme to have him murdered, especially considering the facts before the death took place that night, is a stretch to me.

Is it possible she killed him herself? Yea, but I don't think it's likely. There were marks on the staircase where the strap was tied around.

She would have had to've either used a feat of strength to prop a drunken arturo up and hang him herself, or would have had to've strangled him to death first, then go through an elaborate process to make it look like a suicide.

What I think is a lot more likely is that Arturo, who was an alcoholic, beat his wife in public while drunk, was shooed away by passerbys who did in fact hurt him pretty badly with rocks, and in the drunken insanity of the whole thing was ashamed enough to kill himself.

Alcoholics do not think straight. Ever met a violent alcoholic? They are night and day...they can be a completely different person than you can possibly imagine them to be, with just a couple of drinks. I don't believe it's out of the question at all that Arturo, who was one, decided to kill himself as I've seen people myself come close to doing the same.

What DOESN'T make sense, however, is how the police didn't test his blood/alcohol, which seems like a gimme. The guy claimed they did but it doesn't make any sense that he'd test completely clean when all reports were that he was drunk.

 

Thats actually kinda fishy to be honest...but not maybe the way that most people think. Often people who are planing on killing themselves do things like this....sudden changes in there will and what not. Gift giving is an ominous sign in someone with suicidal ideation. This might have been something along these lines. Thats one way of looking at it. All things being equal though it doesn't appear that Gatti had any real suicide plan (if that is what happened). Getting smashed and desciding to choke yourself with a purse strap isn't exactly a plan you come up with weeks in advance. Plus I don't know if Arturo had any pre-existing medical diagnosis of depression or anything. That would help substantiate her claims.

He could also have been suffering from Brain damage too. I've seen alot of brian injuries and the TWO MAIN things they do to is 1) Lead to increased rates of depression and 2) lead to increased disinhibition and impulsivity. So it is possible that a guy who took that many shots to the head who maybe had undiagnosed brain damage and with it decreased mood and increased impulsiveness who was drunk off his tree could have decided to kill himself. Who knows.

Personally, I think there is too much screwy **** going on here for me to lean one way or another.

 

The main thing to me is the way the suicide happend. it is a fact that men usually don't hang themselves when they committ suicide, nor slit their wrist, nor take a whole bunch of pills. Most men shot themselves in the head when they want to check out.

 

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. But if I remember correctly hanging is the second most common method of suicide world wide though. And 1 person doesn't have to follow the trend. Maybe there was no guns in the house.

 

how about if you are past the **** out in practically a coma?

 

hmm you're using pretty strong language to get your point across, biased with your obvious hatred towards Arturo. what's the matter you too feel that Paulo Albares is truthful with his body language when he states that there is no possible way a second party would have been admitted in the room......and there is no way that amanda could have known anybody, in her home country?

YOU state that it clarly appears to be a suicide....if it were so damn clear, why was she detained for so long?

 

let's talk about the purse strap for a minute.....take the "creep" factor out by figuring out what type of purse it came from...then....umm ......simply buy another one...then perform the test with a "new " "un-creeped" strap. if it were any ole joe blow, i can see the brazilian investigative team dismissing the case (as so many do in that particular part of town), but come on, this is a high profile case that has a lot at stake...one of the things at stake is Paulo albares team's reputation can now be considered equivilent to the keystone cops competance.