The Great Fighters top nemisis

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  1. JoffJoff

    JoffJoff Regular Junkie Full Member

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    Apart from all the kebabs, coke, etc, he landed THAT uppercut on himself. Nobody Fks up Tyson Fury more than Tyson Fury.
     
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    Well one of them did.
     
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    Premature stoppage.:headbashPrimo was getting his second wind.
     
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    Premature stoppage.:headbashPrimo was getting his second wind
    Sullivan's nemesis wasn't Corbett, it was inactivity and:godsdrink0nw:
     
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    JoffJoff Regular Junkie Full Member

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    I remember Frazier laughing at parkinsons riddled old Ali on television saying something like "I did that to him" and being pretty shocked. I take it Ali didn't hold on to the rivalry in quite the same way?
     
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    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A couple I haven't seen

    Foreman - Frazier
    Calzaghe - Veit
     
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    He tried to apologize to Frazier for his remarks several times but Frazier shrugged him off..
    Here's a little story.
    After the fight,[ Manila,]" a benumbed and exhausted Ali,his lips scraped raw,lay on a cot in his locker room in Manila and summoned Marvis Frazier, Joe,s 15 years old son,to his side."Tell you Dad the things I said I really didnt mean" "Marvis Frazier reported back to his Father,who replied ," he should come to me,son,he should say it to my face".
    Back in the States Ali called Butch Lewis and asked him for Frazier's private number.Ali told Lewis he wanted to apologize to Frazier for some of the things he said.Lewis called Frazier but Frazier said ,"don't give it to him."
    For a segment of the filming of ,"Champions Forever" in Johnny Tocco's Gym,Frazier started in on Ali who was already debilitated by by Parkinson's"look at Ali," "Look what's happened to him.All your talking man,Im faster than you are now.You're damaged goods".
    After the shoot there was a luncheon Frazier had too much to drink and afterward, as people milled around the room and talked, he started walking toward Ali.
    Thomas Hauser was there and recounts that over the next 20 minutes Larry Holmes quietly positioned himself between Ali and Frazier,Hauser says "Joe was trying to get to Ali,but wherever Joe went left ,or right,Holmes would step between him and Ali physically shielding him.
    After about ten minutes of this George Foreman walked up to Larry and said ,"I'll take over",so for the next ten minutes Frazier tried to get around Foreman.At one point Frazier leaned into Foreman but Foreman only leaned back "keep it cool Joe ,be calm , "he whispered.Hauser says," Ali had no clue what was happening he was oblivious,he was walking around like Mr Magoo".
    Frazier's comment on watching Ali light the Olympic flame was,"it would have been a good thing if he had lit the torch and fallen in if I had the chance I would have pushed him in".
    In his autobiography Frazier said," Now people ask me if I feel bad for him,now that things aren't going so well for him.
    Nope I don't.Fact is I don't give a damn.They want me to love him, but I'll open up the grave yard and bury his ass when the Lord chooses to take him." Frazier referred to Ali's condition as," Frazieritis"
     
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    It makes a lot of sense... lol :D
     
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    There are also a few recent ones where the fights never materialised but the rivalry or bad blood was there;

    R. Bowe/L. Lewis

    K. Brook/A. Khan

    T. Fury/D. Haye

    Contro/Reznick


    @mcvey - Holy sh!t. Joe Frazier was one cold hearted mofo, it's sad really because their respective legacy's were intertwined, you can't mention Frazier without thinking of Ali. The bit with Holmes and Foreman playing bodyguard to Ali was good to hear.
     
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    Yeah, he was getting all set to hit the deck another 3 or 4 times.
     
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    His ankle was repairing itself round by round.
     
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    Bob Fitzsimons vs James Jeffries. Supposedly Fitzsimmons broke his hands up hitting Jeffries iron jaw.
     
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    The biggest nemesis of Roberto Duran, Wilfred Benitez , Mike Tyson and several others?

    Themselves.
     
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    Stanley Ketchell's was Billy Papke and Maurice Thompson.
     
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    And Ali still out lasted Frazier Nov 2011 vs Ali June 2016. Ironic.
     
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