The Greatest Chin of All-Time?

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  1. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    could be 1 of the dumbest things I've ever read on ESB, I want you to really think about what you wrote and how stupid it really sounds.Your comparing a head kick from one of the hardest kickers in the sport of MMA which part of his shine landed against the side of his head against a punch with a boxing glove on.:-(
     
  2. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Barney Ross, Micky Walker, Harry Greb. All top chins.
     
  3. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would bet you a thousand dollars Hunt couldnt take a Lewis right hand flush, its ******ed to think Hunts got the best chin compared to Mccall. Your comparing too different type of blows, just because you can take one doesnt mean you could take another.
     
  4. Jack

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    It's nothing to do with that. It's preparation. A kick isn't nessecarily harder than a punch, for obvious reasons, but it gets a high knockout ratio because of it's unexpectancy. In MMA it's a lot harder to see a kick coming than it is for a punch in boxing.

    Go look at the KO ratio for kicks in K-1 and you will see a big difference.

    The fact kicks usually score KO's every time they land in MMA, doesn't mean they are harder than a punch. It's why you get knockdowns/knockouts of relatively weak looking punches. The chances are, if a boxer/fighter does not see a strike and it hits him clean, he will go down.

    Hunt does have an excellent chin, I don't want to forget that. However, him taking a kick doesn't nessecarily prove it, because most people go down from them.

    If he was in with Lewis, he would be out of his depth and would get caught with all kinds of shots he wouldn't see comng. Despite his chin, i'd expect him to go down several times.
     
  5. kg0208

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    Have not looked at it that way. Fresh perspective on an old saying really. Its always the ones you don't see coming. I guess that would apply to kicks as well as punches.
     
  6. Jack

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    Exactly. Someone mentinoed Mercer earlier, but he was destroyed because he had no idea how to track a kick and he was caught blind. In boxing, that would happen with Hunt.

    You can't take something you can't see. Simple as that.
     
  7. Ray_Robinson

    Ray_Robinson G.O.A.T 175-19-6-2. Full Member

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    Lamotta had a great chin.
     
  8. AJAX

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    that's like saying he could take a blast from a shotgun but couldn't take one from a 9mm. If boxing car would show that highlight you would understand.
     
  9. Jack

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    I think so. I put this down to a granite chinned fighter like Ali taking huge shots from Frazier, but almost going down when caught with an arm punch in the corner. Same with Ali getting floored by Henry Cooper and Lewis against McCall.

    If a boxer can see a punch coming, he can react to it before it hits him, softening the blow. If he has no idea it's coming, he's going to get floored.
     
  10. Jack

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    A kick in MMA - Especially a high kick - Is not more powerful than a haymaker. And I'm guessing you can't factually prove it is.
     
  11. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Like Jack just said its the punch or the kick you dont see coming hurts you the most, Im not going to argue with you which ones harder a kick or punch because we both have our own opinions. But a shotgun compared to a 9mm thats a little bit of a stretch dont you think?
     
  12. 2smart4u

    2smart4u Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :rofl Incredable chin but why do you think it was better then the BULLS ? OLIVER hasnt even been hurt !
     
  13. AJAX

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    no, and I don't have factual proof that a shootgun is more powerfull than a 9mm either, but if you watched cro cop highlights what his headkicks have done to people over the years you would understand, it's not the same getting punched with a boxing glove on even if it is form a guy like Lennox Lewis.
     
  14. AJAX

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    that not see it comin line is reminds me of polititions who can answer any question with a form of bs to give the response they want.
     
  15. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is proof of the shotgun having a stronger impact than a 9mm, as the speed and impact and the mutilation it causes are documented.