The Ingle style doesn't cut it at world level!

if naz had really stuck with it, the footwork particularly, and concentrated on being elusive he'd have been a far better fighter

i think its a style thats worked on the whole, dont know why they dont teach fighters to fight behind a guard too for a bit of variety though

 

All British style's won't cut it at the world level, at least these days. There aren't the trainers and I can't think of a good technical boxer to come out of the country in the last 30years bar Frankie Gavin. Don't tell me Hatton, Benn, Froch, Haye are somehow technically superior, they're not

It's worth noting though both Haye and Froch are doing poor Hamed impersonations themselves

YEs Ingle's style has its flaws and it has strength's. They learn good footwork, balance, coordination. I do think Graham's influence on the gym and the atmophere from those days probably took it to the heights it got to. The amount of champions for a local gym is some achievement

 

Problems I see with it is.........

Most of those guys constantly change their stance, there is no structure to what they're doing, they think they're confusing the opponent, but if anything, they're actually confusing themselves. How you ever gonna establish a rhythm, when you keep changing your stance?

One of the major problems with that style, is offensively, many of these guys dont have a jab, so when the guy refuses to play ball, IE wont come foward and lead to them and put them in their counter punching comfort zone, and they have to come foward and take the lead themselves, they often have no idea how to create their openings, and so resort to taking chances and getting countered.

Look at how Bradley beat Witter, he stalked him off the foot, didn't lead to him, and just left just enough of a gap between himself and Witter so he could counter the inevitable wild attacks Witter would start to mount once he realized Bradley was not gonna to lead him and create his offense for him.

You create openings with the jab, there is only so long you can get away using feints, or trying to draw leads, before you come across someone who'll ask these type of questions, whether you can set up your own offense when the opponent doesn't come straight at you swinging, creating your offense for you.

 

bit of a daft post really is this mateatsch,you have named 4 ex or current world champs from britain,very good ones at that:hi:

and the highlighted bit,what,erm,what,eh,come on,eh,what, WTF

 

Yes I have, the topic is Ingle style doesn't cut it at world level because of the lack of fundamentals. Those champions are all good granted, technically they don't have the fundamentals and make errors. They don't cut it against the very best because of their technical limitations. Haye could potentially be the exception, it doesn't make him a good technician though

Yes Froch and Haye's styles are based on the low handed powerpunching Hamed style with inferior footwork/balance/reactions

In the past Britain has had some very good technical boxers like Conteh and Buchanan, that would never make some of the glaring mistakes that sees Hatton and Froch look like pub brawlers at times

 

PP has a point. We havn't produced somebody with good technique at the top level in quite a long time indeed. Our top fighters tend to get by on other things. Whether its strength, will, power, speed, unorthodoxy. I think Michael Watson was the last guy that was technically superior.

 

Whilst I enjoy watching a boxer who has mastered the Sweet Science, technique isn't everything. I love boxing because you can compete using so many different attributes.

 

Naz was a Multiple World Champion - thats more than cutting it at world level.

He beat numerous guys in the top 10 and 20 and 30 in the world.

Thats world class.

He lost to Barrera a ATG by 116-111. - No fighter below world class would be able to be that competitive with Barrera.

 

Naseem Hamed was Ingles golden boy, I personally dont like the hands down style, trying to be slick, High guard ftw!

 

Woodhall? McCracken?

I disagree

 

:thumbsupyup:thumbsup

 

It served Nas well....

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Let's not forget. Nas lost after he left Ingle.