The, is Golovkin Ducking Ward thread.

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  1. The Shockmaster

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    ward will be at 175 and gone by the time ggg even considers that ...by the time he has fought canelo

    ward is 31 and unified his division awhile back....and hes fought two guys that were top 20-15-10 p4p guys at one point.....ggg is 33 and has neither....whether its his fault or not....iiwii....unifying that 160 division really means ****....the division is weak and everyone already recognizes ggg as the best 160 lber....having the "lineal" title will do nothing to help him achieve superst@rdom ...fighting and beating top p4p fighters will
     
  2. Imperial1

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    Apparently the same is being said about Ward with Kovalev and GGG
     
  3. The Shockmaster

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    "Apparently the same is being said about Ward with Kovalev and GGG "

    ya floyd is ducking ggg also...lets not forget that beauty
     
  4. The Shockmaster

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    u dont say "anyone from 154-168" and then back off when andre ward comes calling

    anyone implies anyone...not just froch and chavez.....thats what ggg said...thats why hes getting called a duck....did floyd say "anyone at 160".....did ward say "anyone at 175"? ward has just begun testing above 168
     
  5. dan4579

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    Ah yes, when will a black guy or Mexican finaly catch a break in the sport of boxing?!? Poor guys.
    I am pretty sure if Gennady were black and knocking out all of these TOP 10 and some lower guys, they wouldn't be calling him Wilder. They would probably be calling him "Kid Dynamite" or "Iron" Gennady Golovkin.
     
  6. The Shockmaster

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    no...theyd be calling him deontay wilder
     
  7. devon2

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    Naw Golovkin is obviously more proven in all regards than Wilder, He has a style more similar to Tyson than Wilder as well.
     
  8. dan4579

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    3 or 4 years ago, when Gennady said that, he had no drawing power, s****om or options. I'm have no doubt he would've taken a fight with any big name fighter 154-168. The situation has changed. GGG has options and more to lose. He is also in the divers seat, so IMO there is nothing wrong at all with offering to meet Ward halfway at 164.
    He has repeatedly said, much more recently, that his goal is to unify the middleweight division. That's Wards tough sh!t. He can go rematch Pail Smith or go get KRUSHED. It's triple Gs world, Andre is just orbiting around it.
    Deal with it Shocker, deal with it.
     
  9. The Shockmaster

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    dan tell triple quack to clarify next time "i will fight 168 fighters if they are a 38 year old near retirement carl froch ....or a piece of dung with a big name like chavez.....but if its a skilled, top 3 p4p guy, who is still in his prime and i wont be favored against? no thanks...id rather unify the division"........he was just trying to make a fight with froch and chavez...this wasnt 3-4 years ago.......hes a good fighter....but he conducts himself just like other top fighters that youve probably k nocked for doing the same
     
  10. devon2

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    Well... Ward did just fight at 172, so Golovkin wouldn't really be fighting a 168 fighter.
     
  11. The Shockmaster

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    devon...he has 1 fight, off a long layoff, above 168...and it wasnt even at the full 175 limit...so stop acting like ward is some career light heavy....just stop with that nonsense

    so ggg has more to lose now guys? more to risk? but hell fight froch and chavez but not ward because its risky? sounds like he wanted to cherry pick froch and chavez then huh? i bet ive seen you guys throw that term around in regards to other fighters huh?

    you guys arent boxing fans....you like fighters and youll let them get away with anything if you like them and make excuses...but for others guys its no ok
     
  12. devon2

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    He's not a career light heavyweight. But I'm just saying that if he says i'll fight fighters from 154 to 168 that technically doesn't include Ward unless his next fight is at 168.

    You can't tell me Froch is a cherry pick, and look at my history I have never once used the word cherry pick.

    People can be fans of fighters, that's how boxing works. If you can find some kind of double standard in any of my posts that was serious tell me. People have inherent biases and if you say you don't then you're lying.
     
  13. The Shockmaster

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    i actually dont have inherit biases....and im not saying you personally have ever used the term....but it gets thrown around here alot....by the same people who defend ggg...but call others cherrypickers....im a fan of the sport...im down for anything as long as its fair and reasonable

    im a white male from rhode island....and im a big floyd fan......i dont care about color or races...i just want good fights that are reasonable and fair....

    you cant tell me ward isnt a big name in the sport.....is he a huge draw or ratings bonanza? no...but hes still one of the biggest names there is....and the "offer" made to ward from k2 was a terrible joke...it said no way do we want this fight.......i dont even blame them....they have a shot at canelo.....but dont even make the offer in that case....it looks like a joke.....you say one thing and then ward comes calling and it becomes "he wants to unify....ward isnt even a big name....hes not gonna risk the canelo fight by fighting ward"......ward/ggg is a big fight in the sport and it will sell....
     
  14. devon2

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    Fair enough, don't think that's an unreasonable assessment. But why do you have all these .......?
     
  15. The Shockmaster

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    just how i type devon

    is it unreasonable for ggg to fight ward...to move up on division when ggg has a been a career mw? i dont think so......k2 is conducting gggs career just like any team would...they are carefully crafting him to be a star......hes beaten nothing better than b- level fighter so far......even the talks of big mw fights for him like cotto and canelo are against smaller guys moving up.....his division is just weak overall and its not his fault.....i just want to see him challenge himself....even in a loss to ward i wouldnt knock him...id prob give him just as much props as if he were to beat ward.....i know ggg is good....hes good for the sport too to a large degree....i know hes the best mw out there.....i just wanna see how good he is

    i see people who are fans of him bashing other guys way too much..other guys who have proven how good/great they are over and over....and its a joke to call yourself a fan of the sport if yer gonna knock a bunch of guys and give ggg a free ride