The lesson we all learned from this....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Sweet Pea, Jul 26, 2008.


  1. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    correct! its just one of the many factors that constitutes a good fight...and technical fighters that look good strutting their stuff in the ring is not guaranteed of a win over a determined opponent. the very thing that amsty will never understand.
     
  2. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    i honestly dont believe that, Floyd vs Baldomir the more technical fighter won, Rj vs n e 1 in his prime the more technical fighter won. Having an excellent chin is aaprt of being a good boxer, thats not an intangible. Heart, and the will 2 win are intangibles. And I dont think margo has more heart than cotto or more of a will 2 win, he just has a better chin and stamina. You level the playin field as far as chin and stamina and the better technical fighter wins this fight
     
  3. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I gained a ton of respect for Margarito tonight. The guy has ridiculous grit.
     
  4. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    What? How the **** am I wrong? Cotto clearly showed early on who was more technically skilled, but Margarito proved who was the tougher, more resilient fighter in the end, and broke Cotto. These are things you can't tell about a fighter until you've seen them, which is why I like chiming in on Classic matchups more, as we've seen what those fighters have to offer and can give full analysis.
     
  5. The Italarican

    The Italarican Pretty Good Poster Full Member

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    Do you believe the whiskers were the factor here? It seemed more of an overall physical breakdown rather than not being able to take a hard shot to the head.
     
  6. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Are chin and stamina technical skills?

    I didn't say technical skills don't mean a damn thing, I just said they weren't all there is to boxing. How the hell can anyone deny this?
     
  7. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto should have been tying marg up when he was on the ropes
     
  8. bachatu

    bachatu Pro Full Member

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    Although Cotto has done well in the past when being hurt, I think that Margarito's pressure was just too overwhelming. I seemed as if he just tired out Cotto both physically and mentally in the end. The same type of thing that happened with Cintron, but Cotto gave a much better account of himself, until he could no more. It was obvious, the guy had taken a beating; Im not sure what some are complaining that he quit. He had nothing left.
     
  9. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can also paint too broad of brushstrokes with the word "technical". Cotto throws more textbook punches out of a more fundamentally sound stance, but his defence proved leaky once again while Margarito's was actually awkwardly effective, especially on the inside.

    Looking at old fights, it also hit me that Margarito's jab wasn't getting much respect. The guy's style makes it easy to label him a brawler. The truth is that there's a science to being an effective brawler also, we just easily get caught up in the aesthetically pleasing side of the game sometimes.
     
  10. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    well not technical skills, but they arent intangibles either, some one said earlier that you cant take those intangibles away.
     
  11. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Either way, I didn't say technical skills don't mean anything, I simply said they don't mean everything, that other factors play in. I didn't call them intangibles, I simply said other factors play in. That is 100% true, I don't see how it's even possible to argue with it.
     
  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    "we" :lol:
     
  13. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    We should all blame Teddy Atlas.
     
  14. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What we learned is that some here don't know as much about boxing as they think.
     
  15. Bslice

    Bslice Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl