I thought Harada won both IMO. Yeh great technicain its evident, i dont think he could have slipped too much for Harada to have beat him as Jofre still looks amazing IMO, both boys do. I think he retired and came back and went about 35-0 no ill have to seek out this docu great list my top 5 1. Pep 2. Whittaker 3. Robinson 4. Duran 5. Ali
How could I forget about the man that created his own punch called the Candy Cane! I just watched the first few clips on the Goat vs Lamotta 1. This only gives you a sneak peak of the most famous body punch of all time with the exact motion of a bent candycane on top and driven straight down to the liver. McCallum tried, Bernard tried, but no one in history could quite duplicate the purest, meanest and sweetest of them all...GOAT!
thoughts on Evander Holyfield? Evander's style was underated, he would catch your punches and it was like you had a gun aimed at you and you were the one pulling the trigger lol great example of defense leading into offense. He would use his power hand on Defence as a way to catch and twist an opponents jab or straight. I've been on a huge Ray Robinson kick as of late by watching some old fights, and noticed Ray used this as well. But I don't recall anyone that could use that twist as sonar like Holyfield did. Best example was the Buster fight. Catch, catch, twist, roll off the missed uppercut n counter pancake. Evander was just a freak, who unifies an entire division in their first 18 fights? then moves up to HW and unifies that division like 6 fights later lol doesnt sound like someone who would stick around till 46
James Toney doesn't have good footwork to be one of the greatest technicians. Purely as an inside fighter, sure, but as an overall package he's too lacking in a major department. Even checking back to his lighter days he still seems to be an awkward mover, when being forced to put on pressure he falters.
how many 40+ fat dude's that barely train and can still outbox pretty much most fighters do you know? lol Toney is the epitomy of slickness
SRR vs Lamotta 1? does that exist? agree with TFFp lacks the footwork IMO to be complete. I like the Canto pick you could also argue Perez. thoughts on Duran?
a short clip just gives you a sneak peak of the candy cane! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUYhjX64pDo&feature=channel_page
best olympic team? I was listening to an interview with pea and mark breland talking about the olympics and that 84 class of US Olympians were freaks of nature. I know 76 was regarded as the best ever because the Soviet Union was competing against Ray Leonard, Michael & Leon Spinks etc., but 84 had the best top to bottom imo: Evander, Breland, Sweet Pea, Frank Tate, Biggs, Virgil & Henry Tillman and like 3 other medalists (almost not even FAIR)! You could just see especially from Sweet Pea and Evander that the pro ranks were in trouble once those two took off the head gear.
Oh and how could I forget the guy who was voted by his teammates as the best one of the bunch back in 84 - Meldric Taylor lol! That was like bringing a baseball bat to a pillow fight from top to bottom. Unfortunately we'll never see that again from this new scoring system and the present state of boxing from the pros and retro back to the amateurs :-(
I think Toney at 20 percent is better then most but that being said he never lived up to his full 100 percent potential. Toney didn't need footwork because he could lean on the ropes and work his slip game with his shoulder roll. Toney had a ton of outside the ring problems and should of had a great "er" career then he had but I still don't see nothing in boxing today that can slip a punch like he could (lil Floyd aside)
Of course he needed footwork. Against a great outboxer like McCallum (who is probably more complete as a fighter) he struggled, even with an aging version.
i can only see abit as my computer is slow but it looks like the 6th fight. Ill investigate further The class of 84 was amazing
the professional sweet science four kings the fight dark trade probabily better ones out there i haven't read