The logical reason Pac "increased speed", power, and durability..

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  1. OPBF

    OPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Head? Bigger?

    It only looks bigger because he has more hair, and he's got more fat on his face.
     
  2. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No but one of your mother's sons is. So you admit draining kills the effectiveness of a fighter? So that further puts Pac's accomplishments being that he ALWAYS requests catch weights. You have admitted this.

    My logic is Pac is not sparking men and cracking faces when he couldn't do it to men of slighter frames. Pac doesn't have to cut weight, but the men who he is fighting have done the math and they are at their IDEAL weights. Yes, seriously moron.

    ... And the PED's he is using because he damned sure won't do random drug testing.

    Most of any fighter's fights against competition below their level don't go as long. Look at most of Pac's fights against competition on his leve. The fights go long. Now, he magically can stop bigger larger framed men.

    Knives you are not the sharpest knife in the butcher's block. :lol:
     
  3. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not sure his speed increased... Power and durability I believe so, and I agree it can be due to him fighting at his 'natural weight'. But as it's been said, you then agree him making his opposition come in at catch-weights is to make them weaker, not even the playing field. Which then takes some steam away from the wins... But all in all no I don't think he's using HGH to get stronger... Still concerned about EPO though. :)
     
  4. ripcity

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    There has been no increase in Pacquiao's power.
     
  5. OPBF

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    It's true that Pac hasn't had any increase in his power. He's had less impressive stoppages since climbing in weight bar Hatton, and even before he left super bantamweight, Freddie Roach already said he had the power of a middleweight.
     
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    floyd doesn't like draining himself either, right?
     
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    As a boxing fan on the fence I say inocent until proven guilty but I think asking for random testing is fair. A lot of fighters are getting away with steroid abuse these days. It is only really when drug pharmacies suspected of suplying athletes get raided that they get caught. Olympic testing is a lot harder to get around but probly not immposible. The simple fact is though it's a joke to have anything other than the hardest form of testing in an industry worth millions.
     
  8. Knives7

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    Your post proves how dumb you are. Let me see so Cotto who usually comes in at 146 lost because Pac's camp told him to lose 1 more pound. Also, Margarito, who was a Welterweight just last year was asked to weigh 150. :deal

    YEEP! They really lost so much power. Pacquaio wasn't really at any disadvantage when in comes to weigh.

    Again, your "logic" is Pacquiao must be on steroids because he's winning against 140+ pounders. It's not because Pacquiao is too talented for them it's because he's on PEDs. Tell me what kind of PEDs Pacquiao is on?

    He couldn't do it to men of slighter frame because they go down before Pacquiao can beat them. Oh it's not magic, it's TALENT.

    And moron, Pacquiao never declined a blood test. Your bald head is not as slick as you think it is and no amount of wax will make you bald head will ever make it slick. :deal
     
  9. ripcity

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    A light hitting middleweight.
     
  10. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree, I think Cotto and Clottey are better fighters from a techinical stand point plus there a lot stronger. Marquez just had the perfect style for Pac because he's a great counter puncher but he's not mutlidimensional. Add to the fact that pac doesn't have to cut weight like before and mARQUEZ might have not been competitive with the new improved pac. Marquez was also in his prime and much faster than the bloated walking corpse that Mayweather fought. As for Morales, he beat Pac earlier in his career when Pac was still a jab, jab, straight left guy, so that explains that.
     
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    That still deosn't mean Mayweather can do it. Marquez IMO is a better counter puncher than Mayweather is. He takes more chances and his workrate is better. Mayweather uses his defense to set up counters, which is not a good way to fight Pac. Clottey got a great defense and Pac made him look average and Clottey ain't the fastest guy but he's quicker than what most people think. As for Cotto, he's a well rounded fighter and always has been, that's why he was able to make tactical adjustments in his big fights with Mosley and Clottey to win.
     
  12. totsboy

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    lol..its because of peds brother:deal
     
  13. Toopretty

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    I don't get this.. Steroids are everywhere. Damn near every high profile athlete has been accused and some come up dirty. Pac has been fighting in texas with no testing regs. None. He took one random **** test ordered by the wbc a year or two ago.. Floyd goes through strict olympic testing and goes above and beyond the status quo. Swole head pac took the low road to no testing. I would think pac would want to give his fans and the boxing world piece of mind to eliminate any and all doubt. It's not hard. He could of made/make a fool out of floyds camp by doing the testing random whether he fights floyd or not. All and all this dude has fought twice since the hooplah and tested 0 times. You can pump this dude ariza who has been in the boxing scene for a while but get a ****ing clue.
     
  14. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. He doesn't. He makes sure that the contract favors him in that respect. JMM got paid handsomely as a result.

    Not to toot my own horn, but... I told everyone that he wouldn't make weight! :deal
     
  15. nuketurnal

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    i think his best weight is around 145.. 140 is too low now and 149 is kinda high for him