The mystery of what makes a powerful punch, how much do you know?

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  1. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree that generating more power can be taught to a point, but a featherfisted boxer will always be one. I've very, very rarely heard of cases where boxers suddenly turn into punchers.
     
  2. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    Bradlley is a good ex. of a boxer who's very well ripped/ has good muscle mass but without snap in his fists . I'm sure that he lifts a lot of weights and makes a lot of muscle strenght & cond. exercises , etc but he hasn't that pop. Also Bradley is a technical fighter .:think

    I noticed that guys who hit hard have big solid bones , solid joints ( wrists ). Skinny guys with big bones can hit hard.

    So basically you're born with it and with an adecvate training u can improve it.
     
  3. Fellonblackdays

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    As someone quite rightly said at the beginning, you are either born a hard hitter or you aren't. Why is this even being debated, you cannot just start to hit hard lol.
     
  4. Fellonblackdays

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    Right then Angelo Dundee lets see you turn Paul Malignaggi and Matthew Hatton into the biggest bangers in the welterweight division. :roll:
     
  5. Absolutely!

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    I can't think of too many myself. Hozumi Hasegawa maybe? Martinez?

    I'll concede that there are always going to be fighters who lack the necessary physique, coordination, perhaps even the mentality to hit really hard, and conversely, fighters who possess more of these things than the average man. But so much of boxing is technique, including power. To separate it out just doesn't make sense to me. Even relatively crude punchers like Foreman were taught proper punch technique once upon a time, and it has to be said that they were better for it.
     
  6. Absolutely!

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    I don't think you understood my post.
     
  7. DrMo

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    Bob Foster, Thomas Hearns & Alexis Arguello would disagree.
     
  8. Chappy112

    Chappy112 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I just put it in on google and it says Pacquiao has wrist size similar to heavyweights, not middleweights! As someone else said it's probably just one of many factors, I'm sure Pacquiao's huge legs and speed have a lot to do with the power.
     
  9. Absolutely!

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    Bradley's an interesting case. On paper he has all the attributes to be able to punch very hard for his size, but for some reason doesn't. I think it's mainly a lack of synergy in his body. From what I see, he seems to predominantly punch with his arms and upper body, without really setting his feet up first. Watch the official highlight of his fight against Alexander. At 2:25 you can see that although the shot he throws is hard, his feet and balance are all over the place, so much so that he falls backwards after throwing it.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-poGMVoWH4[/ame]

    He also has a tendency to slap/wing his shots, which I'd assume takes a bit of steam off them.
     
  10. Chappy112

    Chappy112 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tommy showing this sucker how to punch.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1GtrWw09eE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1GtrWw09eE[/ame]
     
  11. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    That 2:25 shot should've been a knock down. It was very well timed and accurate.
     
  12. bowerboy

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    Hitting hard is a function of the transfer of weight and power from the legs through the rotation of the hips and into the turn of the shoulder...the natural rythm of that movement is impossible to learn and is something that your brain is hardwired to do or is not.

    When I was in school there was this kid who had the hardest punch of anyone I have ever boxed against and it was bizarre to witness/experience...he was so slow and his punches looked so ineffective but when they landed they had sledgehammer power...he was easy to beat in sparring because he was sooo slow but man he could hit harder than anyone and it was mystery when you watched him
     
  13. Absolutely!

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    Not really. There is no one formula for power, it stems from a number of things which different fighters have in differing amounts.
     
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    Spot the puncher.
     
  15. Absolutely!

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    Yeah, I'd go along with that.

    One can become a little overanalytical regarding physique/tendon strength/bone mass etc though.