the mystery punching power

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  1. boxing_master

    boxing_master Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I never realy got this for example if we take tim Bradley he is built like a tank but has zero punching power you would assume he would hit hard on the othere side of the spectrum you take triple g when you look at his body he looks like average man not built yet he hits hard where does the power come from ?
     
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    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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  3. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Technique is correct plus it's about how strong and explosive the muscles are not just how big or visible they are. Also GGG looks to have a big, strong core to me. He doesn't have a tiny waist like some.
     
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  4. lepinthehood

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    ye but then u got hearns.
     
  5. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again technique and explosive muscles I think.
     
  6. dannyc1990

    dannyc1990 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A muscles a muscle, 'explosive muscles' don't exist lol. You can obviously work on explosive power but that doesn't build a different type of muscle that normal weight training would...obviously you'l become better at explosive movements though...

    Theres no logic to punching power, your born with it in my opinion... one big thing though is using your core and legs... this will allow you to generate some serious power maybe some fighters just don't get the jist of this.
     
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  7. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What I mean is some muscles are more explosive than others (ie have more speed and strength). Basic stuff you learn in school is that there are fast twitch muscle fibre (for fast explosive movements) and slow twitch (for endurance) and different people have different ratios of each. Two people can have the same size muscle but one can be stronger or faster etc through training or just naturally born that way. There's logic to everything imo
     
  8. dannyc1990

    dannyc1990 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Obviously but my point being your born with it. THe kind golovkin has anyways or kovalev. Look at them punch, they don't even appear to do anything different... I mean i'd go with haye as a good comparison, he's a big puncher but he has to set it up he has to find that explosive punch where as these guys, anything they land hurts there opponents.

    ON the muscle fibres a point to make is you cannot increase fast twitch (from what your born with) but you can increase slow twitch (endurance) so that shows more reasoning to say it's something your born with, obviously technique comes into play. Like i said using legs and core more but these guys are trained fighters if they can't find that punching power the only reason i can see is, it's something your born with.
     
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    yes exactly when triple g punches he doesn't use his core or hips he doesn't have to do much his punches are just hard
     
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    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I may be wrong but I think it is core strength in those instances as well as just having strong muscles in other places (shoulder, arms, chest etc). Their core stabilizes their body so when they throw a punch with those strong arm, shoulder etc muscles power still comes through even when they don't plant their feet and throw their weight into it. That's my theory anyway.
     
  11. daprofessor

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    there are a lot of components to what u call punching power.

    leverage
    timing
    speed
    accuracy
    element of surprise
    technique etc...

    if u look at most guys that can punch...they definitely sit on their punches. meaning, there is a slight bend in knee and waist which ties the body completely together. a good puncher will tell you that the punch starts at their toes but u cannot neglect trunk and shoulder rotation along with turning the punch over properly.

    the accuracy of the punch is important as well. it should land on it's target..the button so to speak....chin, temple, solar plexus, liver, nose, etc...

    speed and accuracy along with the element of surprise...that would be someone like nazim hamed. this guy threw punches from the craziest angles and was NOT always properly planted on his feet although he usually rotated into the shots very well. they came from angles the opponent could not see and everyone knows the shot u don't see coming is the one that hurts u the most.

    tim bradley lacks punching power for several reasons...some of the obvious ones...he doesn't always turn into his shots completely. he throws karate like combinations. he doesn't sit on his punches all the time either. his style is more about scoring/volume and trying to out box you rather than trying to hurt or stop u.
     
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  12. markq

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    Fighter's who rely on speed do so at the expense of power. Meldrick Taylor, Floyd, Rigo, Bradley, ... Don't get me wrong they have respectable power not one punch KO power we associate with some fighters.
     
  13. BlueBottle

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    Bradley is a good example to use in this example. If your ask Bradley to hit a heavy bag that can measure punching power, he will use all the technique he has learn over the years, use his strongest punch and is permitted to repeat it if he feels he could do better, I think the end result is his rating will be as high as anyone at his weight.

    The analogy as to why Brady doesn't show the same punching power in the ring is may be similar to the reason why one powerful hitter in baseball always end up hitting more home runs than another equally powerful hitter. I really think it comes down to technique and offensive boxing skills more than strength.

    Very interesting subject.
     
  14. So are you trying to insinuate that Paulie Malignaggi could hit a heavy bag just as hard as someone like Keith Thurman, or Lucas Matthysse? So just on the account of different approaches some fighters take into their bouts, their power will be different? You don't think there are certain intrinsic anomalies, unique to an athlete that make able to generate force more so then the others when they fire off a shot? :think

    Please elaborate.
     
  15. pedrin1787

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    Most good boxers start learning at a young age, if power came from technique we'd have a ton of Mathysses and Golovkins.
     
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