The reason why Canelo wont fight Benavidez

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  1. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    Apparently more.than what PBC wanted to pay.
     
  2. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    How much more? Has Canelo's team ever revealed what it would take to get the Benavidez fight signed?
     
  3. Eclipse

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    Rubbish. What you said does not exist in the Rafael report. Prove me wrong. Quote it. What was reported was Canelo did not accept the condition of Benavidez being the 3rd fight. He wanted to just beat up a drunk and then to be free to cherry pick for the 3rd fight also.

    PBC is not tinpot, its known for over paying fighters and producing the biggest and best fights over the last decade. Instead Canelo ran to a place that only has Mungia and Berlanga to offer him. When you say they were messing with his money, you mean offering him 55m plus ppv for Benavidez? He will not earn that much from fighting Berlanga and Mungia.
     
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  4. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    I'll do.you one better out of Rafaels mouth starting at 3:00 in the video.
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  5. Eclipse

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    Cool. In that video Rafael is filling in the blanks a bit, but the point is Canelo rejected fighting Benavidez for 55m plus ppv. No reports of Canelo being interested in negotiating a better price or anything. Flat out not interested. Asking more than that is plain ducking anyway. That is the biggest pay day of his life. He has never had a 55m guarantee before.
     
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  6. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    More then they could pay
    They broke as a joke
     
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  7. Brighton bomber

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    That's the crux of the problem isn't it. Benavidez isn't some huge draw or even a solid draw based on his PPV numbers but he's been made out to be this huge threat and that Canelo is ducking him and that's created a false expectation that this fight is bigger than it truly is. While it's bigger than say Crawford/Spence because of Canelo's ability to draw dwarfing both Bud and Spence, it's not some mega fight that will generate significantly more than Canelo draws against anyone good.

    All this hype surrounding this fight can't alter the reality of what it truly is. Canelo against another good contender.

    It's going to have to take Saudi money to probably make this fight happen.
     
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  8. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    You need a report of him negotiating further? Lol what makes you think PBC let's their biggest fighter walk away from a contract that has 2 fights left on it without any negotiations? In that same video Rafael states they couldn't come to mutual terms. How does that happen without negotiating?
     
  9. Eclipse

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    No its not the crux of it because the Benavidez fight might give Canelo his best PPV since GGG 2, or even surpass it. You cant keep saying he is not a draw while admitting it will do 1 million ppv. lol.

    The real crux of the matter is Canelo does not want to fight Benavidez for any realistic amount of money.

    Yes I want evidence that money is the sticking problem for him fighting Benavidez. You realize asking an unrealistic amount for the fight is just blatant ducking right? He was already offered according to reports, 55m plus all the ppv, with David getting 5m and NO ppv.
     
  10. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Looks like Canelo has been exposed again. He only wants a payday. Which is why it’s so silly when his fans claim that’s all that everyone else wants. Why is it ok for Canelo to want payday but nobody else?
     
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  11. Brighton bomber

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    Never said it would do 1 mill, I said it would be lucky if it did 1 mill, which means it probably doesn't. I assume you misinterpreted my original post and didn't simply misquote me on purpose to make a point.

    I agree he doesn't want the fight for realistic money that clear, because PBC and Benavidez fans have hyped this fight up to be some massive match up it isn't.

    But I will say that it might turn into a bigger fight, with Plant and PBC getting more openly vocal about chasing this fight and with boxing fans on both sides talking about this supposed duck, it might every well create greater interest among casual fans who get drawn into this drama.

    Right now if the fight happens it does more than Charlo as it's seen as more competitive but it probably won't do close to 1 mill. But give it another 12 months of all this talk of ducking, with the fight not happening only building interest and more people thinking Canelo is ducking giving the impression he fears Benavidez then yeah it could grow into a bigger fight that does 1 mill or more. Which is why they are not fighting, fact is sometimes marinating a fight does generate more interest, which sucks but it is what it is. Question is do they over do it like Joshua/Wilder either of them could lose unexpectedly.
     
  12. Eclipse

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    The funny thing and very bad thing for Canelo is that Benavidez does not care about the pay day and just wants to inflict pain and win the belts, so Canelo does not have that escape route. Benavidez literally cornered him completely from every angle, that is why Canelo ran for the hills. I was telling people the last 3 years this was the end game.
     
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  13. Eclipse

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    Tell me something. What fight do you think is a bigger $$ fight than Benavidez and Canelo right now?

    PS. I'm not sure what rock you have been hiding up but Canelo has been accused of ducking Benavidez for around 3 years now. Floyd is on video 2 years ago saying it. This did not start last week. Now its just reached the end game. You want marinate it more when Benavidez has moved to 175 and will struggle to come back down. You are a genius, you should be a promoter!
     
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  14. steviebruno

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    Benavidez isn't seen as a huge threat because of how much money he brings; he's seen as a huge threat because of the abilities he's shown in the ring.

    It shouldn't take Saudi money to get the fight made... unless Canelo sees Benavidez as something more than "just another good contender" and doesn't want to fight him for the money that he'd fight a Ryder, Charlo, Berlanga, or Munguia for.

    If the fight wasn't that big a deal, Canelo would have fought him already. He's the one that has created the huge expectations for the fight by not fighting someone who has clearly earned the right to face him.

    I hope you see the contradiction in your stance here.
     
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  15. shadow111

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    Then why did he announce that he's moving up to 175 to become the mandatory there? He's in position to force Canelo to fight within the year. Alls he gotta do is stay put, force the WBC to do their job, and force Canelo to fight him. Instead he announces he's running off to 175 to campaign there? In doing that, he'll lose his mandatory as you can't be mandatory in multiple weight classes. Benavidez could have cornered Canelo into fighting him, instead he is running for the hills to 175. Yet you're accusing Canelo of running for the hills. Canelo isn't running anywhere, he's not the one vacating his opportunity to challenge for Undisputed. Canelo remains Undisputed at SMW and if his mandatory challenger is choosing to run off to another weight class, that's not his problem.
     
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