The Reason why the Heavyweight Division is considered weak

Elite athletes like Chamberlin & Brown would be elite athletes in any era. Hell, Chamberlin led the league in rebounds his last year when he was way past his prime, and several alltime greats in their prime were playing the same year: Jabbar, Hayes, etc.

 

People will always complain about the current era. In the early to mid 90s, there were even people complaining about the HW era then, saying "why is Holyfield defending against grandfathers?" and saying a grandfather being HW champ proves how poor the era is.

Now, people for the most part say the early to mid 90s was one of the strongest HW eras ever. People always complain about the current HW division no matter what.

Crybabies claim it's an anti-East European bias why people are complaining now, but they probably lack the historical knowledge to know that it's nothing new for people to whine about the division.

 

The original post isn't really about generational or racial differences. It's just a bunch of anti-american clap-trap. That stuff never ceases to amaze me.

My top 3 favorite active fighters:
Kelly Pavlik
Miguel Cotto
Antonio Margarito

My favorite fighter of all time:
Alexis Arguello.

How many Americans do you see on that list??

 

There is some truth to the original post. If Wlad were American, the division would be more popular and he would be considered better than he is.

The lack of talent @ the top is apparent too though. Last night watched Tony Thompson beat some guy recently and thought, he throws some good punches, but they are a bit slow without much on them. I then watched a u-tube clip of Foreman Ko'ing dudes right and left. It showed all of round ten vs. Michael Moorer in 1994. Even @ this stage of his career against Moorer, Foreman seemed faster, more in control, and oviousley much stronger than Thompson. It was like night and day.

Race??? I really think once a fighter makes his mark the race thing pretty much goes out the window. Would Marciano have been considered greater if he was a black guy? Doubt it...

 

You are EXTREMELY dumb. Yes a prime Ross Purity, Brewster, and Golfer Corrie Sanders would destroy Ali within 3 rounds give or take. I mean Jesus-Tap-Dancing CHRIST if they KO'd or had Wlad out on his feet, what could Ali do against such fighters? I mean Ali would certainly be no match for Rahman who KO'd a prime Sanders. /sarcasm

Yes Ross Purity had Wlad out on his feet, yet Ali would get murdered. Ali would probably KO Wlad more than likely.

 

The reason the heavyweights are considered weak is because the media say it is because they cant take the fact these tough eastern blockers are smashing their way to the record books.

 

I have been watching the Heavyweight division as close as anyone during the 2000's, and I must say, the Heavyweight division is just plain terrible as a whole. The 80's Heavyweights were even better than we have now, Homes, Tyson, Dokes, Smith, Page, Foreman, Douglas, Thomas, Berbick, and Spinks were better than the best of the 2000's, which is Wlad, Bryd, Ruiz, Rahman, Brewster, Valuev, Peter, Chagaev, Maskaev, and Iggy. I could only name Wlad as possibly being in the Boxing Hall of Fame, in the 80's you had Tyson, Holmes, Foreman, and Spinks, all of which are Hall of Fame bound or are already in.

 

The reason it's considered weak is because the media damn near always complains about the state of the heavyweight division.

As a matter of fact, not just the HW division.

They had an article in 1980 debating on whether or not Roberto Duran was the greatest lightweight ever. Numerous quotes talked about "the era was weak" and the general consensus is that he wasn't the greatest lightweight ever.

Years later, The Ring ranks him #1 at 135 in issues both in 1994 and 2001, and says his "competition was strong".

 

Right on point!

 

i sorta understand where ur coming from. maybe it's because nobody here usually sees their fights when they first started because it's not televised over here or something

 

you need to consider that ali was so famous that he made others great! i seriously think that frazier and norton were mediocre (althought they would dominate today!)

 

Snorklax I presume??? Great post

 

Well, i think there a signs its getting better. Wlad will be there for a while, maybe Vitali will have a good comeback. I have a lot expectations in Haye and Sam Peter is ok as a champ. I can still get excited about several heavyweight fights. But yes, the heavyweight needs new talented guys. I think people saying the heavyweight sux today have a legit point. I dont see it that extreme, i think Wlad (and Vitali) could compete in every era.

 

the hw diviion sucks because nobody in it is fun to watch

 

Yeah right, better trained my ass. Chagaev gets a new injury every week, Vitali has been getting his ass kicked by training camp for nearly 4 years, Maskeav held up progress since beating Rahman in August of 06 and didnt fight Peter until he was forced to in March of 08. Iggy's claim to fame is beating asthmatic Briggs and 45 yearold Holyfield, and when it was time to step up and fight the top guy, he was about as accurate as Zelenoff hitting the heavybag.

Wlad is the only good European fighter we have now adays, and maybe Povetkin, though he doesnt look like anything special too me. He beat weather worn Bryd and some trouble beating a powerless, low workrate fighter in Chambers.

If you really think the Heavyweight division is good, then you must be very young or easily pleased, because the majority of fight fans dont agree with you.