The Ring rankings drive me mad

The mass hysteria of man love surrounding Andre Ward in the Boxing press makes me wanna vomit.

 

the ring rankings are horrendous. The Boxing Sites are better

WORLD DIVISIONAL RANKINGS (December 2010)

Heavyweight (201lbs+)
World Champion: Wladimir Klitschko (IBF & WBO) -Beat Ruslan Chagaev June 2009
1. Vitali Klitschko (WBC)
2. David Haye (WBA)
3. Ruslan Chagaev
4. Tomasz Adamek
5. Alexander Povetkin
6. Eddie Chambers
7. Tony Thompson
8. Odlanier Solis
9. Juan Carlos Gomez
10. Chris Arreola
11. Sam Peter
12. Alexander Dimitrenko
13. Dennis Boystov
14. Robert Helenius
15. Ray Austin

Cruiserweight (200lbs)
World Champion: (Vacant)
1. Steve Cunningham (IBF)
2. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk (WBC)
3. Marco Huck (WBO)
4. Dennis Lebedev
5. Troy Ross
6. Steve Herelius
7. Guillermo Jones (WBA)
8. Alexander Frenkel
9. Giacobbe Fragomeni
10. Ola Alafoabi
11. Danny Green
12. Yoan Pablo Hernandez
13. Enad Licina
14. Herbie Hide
15. Francisco Palacios

Light-Heavyweight (175lbs)
World Champion: Jean Pascal (WBC)- Beat Chad Dawson August 2010
1. Zsolt Erdei
2. Chad Dawson
3. Tavoris Cloud (IBF)
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Beibut Shumenov (WBA)
6. Gabriel Campillo
7. Jurgen Braehmer (WBO)
8. Nathan Cleverly
9. Adrian Diaconu
10. Chris Henry
11. Thierry Karl
12. Dmitry Sukhotsky
13. Vyacheslav Uzelkov
14. Otis Griffin
15. Karo Murat

Super-Middleweight (168lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Andre Ward (WBA)
2. Carl Froch (WBC)
3. Lucian Bute (IBF)
4. Glen Johnson
5. Librado Andrade
6. Arthur Abraham
7. Dimitri Sartison
8. Robert Stieglitz (WBO)
9. Sakio Bika
10. Jean Paul Mendy
11. Brian Magee
12. Edison Miranda
13. Eduard Gutknecht
14. Karoly Balzsay
15. Khoren Gevor

Middleweight (160lbs)
World Champion: Sergio Martinez (WBC) - Beat Kelly Pavlik April 2010
1. Felix Sturm (WBA)
2. Kelly Pavlik
3. Sebastian Sylvester (IBF)
4. Dimitry Pirog (WBO)
5. Daniel Geale
6. Gennady Golovkin
7. Roman Karmazin
8. Matthew Macklin
9. Sebastian Zbik
10. Hassan N’Dam N'Jikam
11. Marco Antonio Rubio
12. Lajuan Simon
13. Giovanni Lorenzo
14. David Lemiuex
15. Fernando Guerrero

Light-Middleweight (154lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Sergeii Dzinziruk (WBO)
2. Miguel Cotto (WBA)
3. Paul Williams
4. Kermit Cintron
5. Alfredo Angulo
6. Cornelius Bundrage (IBF)
7. Sechew Powell
8. Ryan Rhodes
9. Lukas Koneckny
10. Shane Mosley
11. Sergio Mora
12. Yuri Foreman
13. Vanes Martirosyan
14. Saul Alvarez
15. Erislandy Lara

WBC held by Manny Pacquiao

Welterweight (147lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Floyd Mayweather Jnr
2. Manny Pacquiao (WBO)
3. Andre Berto (WBC)
4. Joshua Clottey
5. Jan Zaveck (IBF)
6. Vyacheslav Senchenko (WBA)
7. Randall Bailey
8. Selcuk Aydin
9. Ionut Dan Ion
10. Mike Jones
11. Mike Alvarado
12. Rafael Jackiwicz
13. Demetrius Hopkins
14. Kell Brook
15. Luis Carlos Abregu

Light-Welterweight (140lbs)
World Championship: (Timothy Bradley vs Devon Alexander for the vacant title January 29th)
1. Timothy Bradley (WBO)
2. Amir Khan (WBA)
3. Devon Alexnader (WBC)
4. Andreas Kotelnik
5. Marcos Maidana
6. Victor Ortiz
7. Juan Urango
8. Paul Malignaggi
9. Kaizer Mabuza
10. Zab Judah
11. Lamont Peterson
12. Lucas Mathysse
13. Paul McCloskey
14. Julio Diaz
15. Ajose Olusegun

IBF title vacant

Lightweight (135lbs)
World Champion: Juan Manuel Marquez (WBA & WBO) - Beat Michael Katsidis November 2010
1. Humberto Soto (WBC)
2. Michael Katsidis
3. Miguel Acosta
4. Juan Diaz
5. Robert Guerrero
6. Miguel Vasquez (IBF)
7. Brandon Rios
8. Jorge Linares
9. Leonardo Zappavigna
10. John Murray
11. Paulus Moses
12. Marco Antonio Barerra
13. John Molina
14. Vincente Escobedo
15. Antonio DeMarco

Super-Featherweight (130lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Takashi Uchiyama (WBA)
2. Mzonke Fana (IBF)
3. Ricky Burns (WBO)
4. Takahiro Ao (WBC)
5. Juan Carlos Salgado
6. Jason Litzau
7. Roman Martinez
8. Sergey Gulyakevich
9. Jorge Solis
10. Vitali Tajbert
11. Stephen Foster Jnr
12. Rene Gonzalez
13. Elroy Perez
14. Mario Santiago
15. Terdsak Jandaeng

Featherweight (125lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Chris John (WBA)
2. Juan Manuel Lopez (WBO)
3. Yuriorkis Gamboa (IBF)
4. Ello Rojas
5. Daniel Ponce De Leon
6. Hozumi Hasegawa (WBC)
7. Orlando Salido
8. Celestino Caballero
8. Rafael Marquez
9. Cristobal Cruz
10. Jhonny Gonzalez
11. Daud Yordan
12. Miguel Angel Garcia
13. Sofiane Takoucht
14. Bernabe Concepcion
15. Juan Carlos Burgos

Super-Bantamweight (122lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Toshiaki Nishioka (WBC)
2. Ryol Li Lee (WBA)
3. Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym
4. Wilfredo Vasquez Jnr (WBO)
5. Steve Molitor (IBF)
6. Jeffrey Mathebula
7. Antonio Escalente
8. Guillermo Rigondeaux
9. Rendall Munroe
10. Ricardo Cordoba
11. Akifumi Shimonda
12. Masaaki Serie
13. Olivier Lontchi
14. Kiko Martinez
15. Satoshi Hosono

Bantamweight (118lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Fernando Montiel (WBC & WBO)
2. Anselmo Moreno (WBA)
3. Nehmor Cermano
4. Yhonny Perez (IBF)
5. Abner Mares
6. Vic Darchinyan
7. Eric Morel
8. Gerry Penalosa
9. Alexander Munoz
10. Malik Bouziane
11. Vusi Malinga
12. Christian Mijares
13. Christian Esquivel
14. AJ Banal
15. Vusi Malinga

Super-Flyweight (115lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Nonito Donaire
2. Hugo Cazares (WBA)
3. Omar Navarez (WBO)
4. Alberto Rosas (IBF)
5. Jose Lopez
6. Raul Martinez
7. Rodrigo Guerrero
8. Nobou Nashiro
9. Duangpetch Saengmorakot
10. Tomás Rojas (WBC)
11. Volodymer Sydorenko
12. Simphiwe Nongqayi
13. Kohei Kono
14. Daisuke Naito
15. Yota Sato

Flyweight (112lbs)
World Champion: Pongsanklek Wonjongham (WBC) - Beat Koki Kameda March 2010
1. Luis Concepcion
2. Daiki Kameda (WBA)
3. Koki Kameda
4. Julio Cesar Miranda (WBO)
5. Moruti Mthalane (IBF)
6. Takefumi Sakata
7. Cesar Seda
8. Wilbert Ulcab
9. Suriyan Por Chokchai
10. Edgar Sosa
11. Milan Melindo
12. Zolani Tete
13. Brian Viloria
14. Rocky Fuentes
15. Andrea Sarritzu

Light-Flyweight (108lbs)
World Champion: Giovanni Segura (WBA & WBO) - Beat Ivan Calderon August 2010
1. Ivan Calderon
2. Luis Alberto Lazarate (IBF)
3. Gilberto Keb Baas (WBC)
4. Omar Nino Ramero
5. Carlos Tamara
6. Roman Gonzalez
7. Rodel Mayol
8. Ulises Solis
9. Ryo Miyazaki
10. Sonny Boy Jaro
11. Juan Carlos Reveco
12. Ramon Garcia Hireles
13. Marlon Tapales
14. Denver Cuello
15. Adrian Hernandez

Strawweight (105lbs)
World Championship: (Vacant)
1. Nkosinathi Joyi (IBF)
2. Oleydong Sithsanerchai (WBC)
3. Donnie Nietes (WBO)
4. Pornsawan Pompamook
5. Juan Palacios
6. Raul Garcia
7. Michael Landero
8. Florante Condes
9. Kwanthai Sithmorseng (WBA)
9. Ronald Barrera
10. Sammy Gutierrez
11. Yasutaka Kuroki
12. Tsheo Lefele
13. Pigmy Kokietgym
14. Juan Hernandez
15. Luis De La Rosa

 

Spot on rankings there, though I would consider Froch for the top spot over Ward.

 

Pff I gotta change my avatar

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Froch problem is that in his last but one fight he lost to the #3 guy (no #4 guy) that Ward beat comfortably.

 

Why is Ward no.1? He has only fought one meaningful fight in the super 6. He might as well not be in it. I can't wait till Froch beats him.

 

It's my opinion that Froch probably just about deserves to be number one, but it's not that wrong to have Ward there. He beat Kessler when Mikkel was generally considered number 1, whereas Froch lost to Kessler when he was considered about 3rd or 4th.

 

as Roe said I get why people say Froch is number 1 but Ward has a dominant win over the guy Froch lost to so it makes sense to have him ahead. Kessler was recongnized as the number 1 by everyone at the time and Ward took him apart.

Also Kessler and Dirrell shouldn't be ranked as the technically retired.

 

other issues with the ring ratings are;

Danny Green No.6 at Cruiser Pawel Kolodziej ahead off Steve Herelius, Alexander Frenkel, Ola Alafoabi.

Nathan Cleverly no.5 at Light Heavy, Karo Murat no.7 at Light Heavy ahead off Beibut Shumenov, Gabriel Campillo and Jurgen Braehmer.

Kessler and Dirrell still ranked at Super Middle

The middleweight rankings where to start. NO GOLOVKIN!!!!
David Lopez.....who the hell is David Lopez http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?cat=boxer&human_id=42862 is ranked 8th ahead of Gennady Golovkin, Roman Karmazin, Marco Antonio Rubio, Lajuan Simon, Giovanni Lorenzo, David Lemiuex, Fernando Guerrero, Andy Lee, Darren Barker, Julio Cesar Chavez Jnr.

Sergeii Dzinziruk is only number 8 at Light Middle??? Cintron is number 1!!! Rhodes is number 4!!! Alvarez is top 10!!!

Randall Bailley need to be top 10 at Welterweight

Victor Ortiz is not in there top 10 at Light Welterweight

John Murray is ahead off Juan Diaz, Robert Guerrero, Miguel Vasquez,

The ring title would be contested for by Mzonke Fana and Ricky Burns. Surley they would be the worst lineal champ in history. Uchyama should be number 1 he is only at 4.

Orlando Salido as number 4 featherwieght?? Bernabe Concepcion is in the top 10??

Vasquez Jnr only number 9 at Super Bantam??

Nehomar Cermeño only number 6 at Bantamweight??

Darchinyan still at Super Bantam, Donaire is number 4 there!!

 

What's Golden Boy Promotions relationship with HBO and Showtime?
Am i right in thinking GBP shows are almost exclusively on HBO?

Given that Golden Boy own The Ring and Bute has just left HBO for Showtime, could this maybe in some way a fall out from that???

I don't really know, i'm just asking the question :huh

 

Goldenboy have a certain number of dates on HBO but they still do shows with Showtime. Also Bute is not with GBP.

 

This is where Rob comes into his own, good stuff my man. :good

 

cheers boy.

 

I've heard he can walk on water too...:yep

 

Neither fighter has retired (what is the definition of "technically retired"?).

Kessler said he is waiting for his eye to heal (time will tell whether he fights again) and Dirrell has been quoted as saying he's looking for a bout in March.

In those circumstances its quite right both fighters get ranked at Super Middle IMHO. I can't recall any other fighters who have been in similar situations over a similar timescale becoming ineligible for ranking?