+ The Super Middleweight Top 10 Thread +

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Decebal, Nov 17, 2008.


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  1. cityofgod

    cityofgod Worcester warrior Full Member

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    Chicken sh*t INKIN belongs in no list with Froch.

    He ducked the big punching Brit two times on the trot and then switched his story from virus, to back problem to a hand injury...to injury to both hands !

    He is a German-joker.

    Zuniga got stiffed in that fight i reckon.
     
    cityofgod, Nov 18, 2008
    cityofgod, Nov 18, 2008
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  2. Blacc Jesus

    Blacc Jesus . Full Member

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    I agree.
     
    Blacc Jesus, Nov 18, 2008
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  3. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've been hearing this a lot recently. How accurate is this sort of opinion?

    Did Zuniga get jobbed?
     
    Arriba, Nov 18, 2008
    Arriba, Nov 18, 2008
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  4. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    From what I've heard Inkin beat him legit.

    Unfortunately it seems impossible to get hold of the entire thing.
     
    TFFP, Nov 18, 2008
    TFFP, Nov 18, 2008
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  5. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    He will get there... His two loses are to tough top fighters. He had issues in training camp. If he can fix his problems, both in and out of the ring (which he seems to be dedicated to), I think he will win some decent fights and get back in the mix. I can argue with people not having him in their top 10 SMW right now. His best win is against Allan Green who hasnt done much with his career since. Ill keep my faith in the meantime.
     
    Pantera2000, Nov 18, 2008
    Pantera2000, Nov 18, 2008
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  6. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    I was wondering about those scores. Zuniga is a decent figher and I was surprised to see him handed such a wide loss in that fight. Anyone see that fight available online?
     
    Pantera2000, Nov 18, 2008
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  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I saw 6 rounds, they were all fairly close. Zuniga's nothing special though.
     
    Decebal, Nov 18, 2008
    Decebal, Nov 18, 2008
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  8. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When it first came out, All I remember hearing was that Inkin won clearly. Now it seems like people are pushing the idea that Zuniga got jobbed.
     
    Arriba, Nov 18, 2008
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  9. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I did not see Zuniga/Inkin but I heard it was a rather poor fight. I guess Zuniga put in a lazy and boring performance. THAT is wierd. the guy usually fights at a pretty frenetic pace.
     
    booradley, Nov 18, 2008
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  10. Boxing in montr

    Boxing in montr Mandatory challenger Full Member

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    1) Kessler
    2) Bute
    3) Taylor
    4) Andrade
    5) Bika
    6) Froch
    7) Ward
    8 Dirrell
    9) Inkin
    10) Green

    To me, Inkin is like Erdei, he'll defend his title against nobodies and will never take the chance of crossing the Atlantic for a good payday but a chance of losing the WBO strap...
     
    Boxing in montr, Nov 18, 2008
    Boxing in montr, Nov 18, 2008
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  11. Boxing in montr

    Boxing in montr Mandatory challenger Full Member

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    I'm pretty sure that if Andrade will adjust his strategy in a rematch against Bute, the IBF champ will do the same and will come with more stamina then the last time. Bute UD.
     
    Boxing in montr, Nov 18, 2008
    Boxing in montr, Nov 18, 2008
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  12. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I remember arguing Bute would not get to go to the body before the fight, but some Bute fans simply couldn't see it. Now we all know why he couldn't get to the body. You need to be fairly close up to get to the body, and the opponent needs to keep his hands high. Bute didn't stay close to Andrade; he tried to keep it on the outside. Andrade didn't mind getting punched in the face and he kept his long arms low to protect his body. His beltline was also high. On the inside, Bute was protecting his head when he wasn't clinching with body hands, so he couldn't go to the body. He had no time to set up a bodyshot the way Andrade kept on coming forward and throwing either.

    As to Bute's tactics, they were poor but I think Bute was constrained tactically by the styles match-up, the strengths of his opponent and his own lack of inside game. If he had fought Andrade on the inside he would have taken even more punishment and would have got stopped, in my view. Bute simply doesn't have an inside game. Clinching tired him out and allowed Andrade to take free shots at him but at least it didn't lead to him getting battered. Bute found out pretty early on that Andrade was much tougher than he had thought. He realised he couldn't keep him at bay with his power, so he couldn't outgun him on the inside either. He is no Mayweather either, so he had to clinch and wrestle with Andrade when the pressure was getting too much for him.

    In the rematch, Andrade will throw caution to the wind and fight more aggressively from the opening bell. The referee will not allow Bute to clinch as much either. Bute will be forced to fight Andrade on the inside more. I don't think Bute's inside game will have developed enough and his power and toughness are no match for Andrade's relentlessness and toughness. This is why I pick Andrade to do the business in the rematch. Because I think Kessler would stop Bute, but not Andrade, I have Andrade at 2 and Bute at 3.
     
    Decebal, Nov 19, 2008
    Decebal, Nov 19, 2008
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  13. 168 lbs

    168 lbs Guest

    1 Kessler
    2 Bute
    3 Andrade
    4 Taylor
    5 Bika
    6 Froch
    7 Berrio
    8 Inkin
    9 Ward
    10 Dirrell

    but I'm only sure about the top half. The rest need to do some fighting. Plenty of fellers could make it into the top 10. It's a hell of a division.
     
    168 lbs, Nov 19, 2008
    168 lbs, Nov 19, 2008
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  14. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree with this, then I'd follow with

    8. Berrio
    9. Inkin
    10. Ward
     
    PaddyD1983, Nov 19, 2008
    PaddyD1983, Nov 19, 2008
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  15. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    No, Inkin just outboxed him. Should have been a bit closer on the cards but Inkin won rightfully.
     
    Loewe, Nov 19, 2008
    Loewe, Nov 19, 2008
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