The Theory of "Modern Training Methods" Being Superior

Speed and strength perhaps, on average.
But why would stamina improve when fighters are fighter less rounds in championship fights ?

 

http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/strengthtraining.html

I think this is a pretty balanced article on strength training for fighters by one of my favorite strength and boxing training sites.

Weight training can certainly be useful for boxing, not in the bodybuilding sense though. Just thinking of it as "resistance training" makes more sense i think. Sledge and Hbag training fits into this category.

 

It's just as foolish as the old timers or fanatics otherwise claiming no one of the past 5/10 years could've been competitive with older, establish legends.

Of course, there is the significant increase in size.

 

Genetics still plays a part, of course. But weight lifting affects the very muscle fibers that generates explosiveness.

So boxing would be the only big sport not to employ training techniques used in all other sports which make athletes stronger, faster and gives them better stamina?

I think it shows that modern methods have brought some improvements, especially in the HW division. You just didn't have huge guys with the speed and stamina of Bowe, Ike, Wlad etc before.

 

True. The emphasis have of course on improving explosiveness due to the 12 round limit. But you still have giants like Bowe (when fit), Ike and Wlad who shows a really impressive workrate considering their size.

I have to say, though, that I don't know what role illegal substances play.

 

Wlad's workrate isn't that high. Back when he was more active he certainly did have stamina issues.

 

because the question was about traingin methods from early days and from now. Athletes are more finely tuned and better than in the past. Cant be disputed. Look at the times, scores, veritcal leaps, bench press, agility skills, its everywhere.

If you gave George Foreman todays training techniques in regards to anerobic and aerobic exercises, altitude training, and plyometrics, something tells me he would not have gassed out against Ali.

 

Should say that I read an article in a popular science magazine (have posted a previous thread about this) that claimed that result in athletics (as in the Olympics) have improved only marginally since the 1970's. And that this marginal improvement possibly could be explained by the use of illegal substances.

Then we have the other spectrum, like golf who has evolvds tremendously just in the last 10-15 years.

 

Hws back then trained down in weight. Today they put on muscles. Jeffries, Johnson and others with today´s training would be as big as today´s heavys. See Holyfield as a evidence.

Fighters train differently. Back then they trained for 15 and more rounds. The focus was on stamina. Today they train for 12 rounds, the focus is on strength, power and explosiveness. The rules have changed and just like technique the training has adepted. This means it´s better for today´s rules but not for the ones of the past and the same is true the other way round.
I think modern training is better, or more specifically the use of scientific methods make it better, but not by as much as most supporters of "modern means better" claim. And IMO this is neutralized by the softer living conditions today. People back then lived under harsher conditions and thus had a better basic strength and toughness.

 

the right kind of weight training can. if you do stuff like power cleans, jump squats, clean and press, etc with moderate weight, not 500lbs, you will become much more explosive.

 

Please describe me the difference between training today and young Foreman and Jeffries. Thank you in advance.

 

Then why didn´t explosive guys like Tyson and Jones do this?