The Top 100 Pound for Pound All-Time Greats

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  1. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Los Angeles?
     
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  2. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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  3. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Texas. Is that north America? Kenny!
     
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  4. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    South Texas.
     
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  5. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Same opinion.
     
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  6. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah. I guess that's a no.

    Lester who you got for spot 150?
     
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  7. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :huh Buchanan's had a few mentions
     
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  8. Flea Man

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    Buchanan wasn't forgotten he was extensively discusse about ten pages ago :lol:
     
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  9. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Many people would agree with you.

    I'm not one of them.

    It's not just "woulda, coulda".

    You can't just brush away ducking by simply stating "Well, Watanabe has a better resume/he looks better on film, so he must be rated higher".

    Watanabe's avoidance of Khaosai would have been a severe blow to Jiro's rankings. H2H-wise especially.

    Watanabe-Galaxy situation is just an example, of course.


    By the way, I agree with you and Lora on Pong/Pedroza, etc - the whole "longevity/splinter champs defenses/consistency over mediocre/good opponents is better than a spottier record with greater wins and a few losses" issue.

    Ebihara over Pong any day of the week.
     
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  10. Flea Man

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    :good Ebihara has wins over Chionoi, Kingpetch, Efren Torres, among others. And clearly a better example of Wonjongkam's style if you ask me.

    Although IMO, Watanabe had no reason to duck Khaosai.
     
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  11. Lester1583

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    It's between Battlehawk Kazama, Ernesto Marcel and Netrnoi Sor Vorasingh.
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  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    ...i mean i can't stress enough how big a beating i think the heavies have taken in this thread. People are absolutely horrified that Marciano is in the sixties and Frazier is in the 90s, never mind that Dempsey is outside the 100, that Tyson is outside the 100, that Johnson is outside the 100.

    I'd say the exact opposite is true and we have to be careful about not overcompensating.
     
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  13. Lester1583

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    I know it sounds crazy but as far as I know Poontarat was regarded as a better fighter/was a much more eastablished fighter at the time.

    Khaosai was just a challenger.

    Talk about dodging a bullet.
     
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  14. Flea Man

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    I've said that in the thread already, and it's not crazy, Poontarat held the belt, admittedly after a dull as ditchwater jabbing match with Orono that neither man deserved to win, and got off the deck to get rid of Espadas in Saad-Kates-esque fashion.

    Olympic medalist, trained by Charles Atkinson. And he beat Watanabe first time IMO. Then Jiro battered him in the rematch.
     
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  15. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    What about Bus Station, Flea?

    I don't know why, but I always thought he is underrated even in his own country.
     
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