The Top 100 Pound for Pound All-Time Greats

Tier I
Sam Langford,Harry Greb,Ray Robinson,Henry Armstrong,Ezzard Charles,Muhammad Ali,Benny Leonard.

Tier II
Joe Gans, Mickey Walker, Archie Moore, Roberto Duran, Packey McFarland, Joe Louis, Willie Pep, Sugar Ray Leonard.

Tier III
George Dixon, Joe Walcott, Charley Burley, Holman Williams, Barney Ross, Tony Canzoneri, Jimmy McLarnin, Sandy Saddler.

Tier IV
Gene Tunney, Pernell Whitaker, Roy Jones, Terry McGovern, Billy Conn, Kid Gavilan, Stanley Ketchel, Eder Jofre, Tommy Loughran, Tommy Gibbons, Jimmy Wilde.

Tier V
Julio Cesar Chavez, Ruben Olivares, Alexis Arguello, Jose Napoles, Emile Griffith, Jack Britton, Carlos Monzon, Marvin Hagler, Jimmy Bivins, Tommy Ryan.
Tier VI
Mike Gibbons, Evander Holyfield, Fighting Harada, Michael Spinks, Wilfredo Gomez, Thomas Hearns, Carlos Ortiz, Ike Williams, Jimmy Wilde, Rocky Marciano.

Tier VII
Ted Kid Lewis, Carlos Zarate, Jack Dempsey (np), Luis Manuel Rodriguez, Bernard Hopkins, Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, Salvador Sanchez.

Tier VIII
Oscar De La Hoya, Sammy Angott, Miguel Canto, Jimmy Driscoll, Harold Johnson, Kid Norfolk, Manuel Ortiz, Dick Tiger.

What about these guys? (Holding)
Young Corbett III, Abe Attell, Fritzie Zivic, Lloyd Marshall, Pascual Perez, Larry Holmes, Panama Al Brown, Benny Lynch, Teddy Yarosz, Bob Foster.

 

Manuel Ortiz is now in freefall for anyone who wants to make a case for him.

Mike Gibbons in Tier VI - seperated from his brother by an entire tier and about a dozen spots.

Dick Tiger drops down a slot as does Sanchez, who is now ranked alongside Hopkins.

How do we feel about Mike Gibbons>Bernard Hopkins>Dick Tiger?

 

Also; I moved Wilde out of V into IV. It doesn't make any difference to his ranking as I see it - literaly, in terms of numbers - but i want to keep the individual tiers managable in size.

 

I think Pedroza might ******t some discussion at the very end. But i don't think a list with him at #108 is outrageous based upon the names remaining us. I think he might pop up at the very end.

How do you see Vincente Saldivar in relation to him?

 

We've less than 20 spots left to us after we sort the two bottom tiers.

 

See I have Saldivar above Pedroza - and things are getting really, really tight now.

But once we have a hundred we'll have another tier and thrash it out. Cases will need to be made though. No writing a name and saying who he should be above. Not that you did that Drew, but you understand what i'm saying.

 

I've been sticking up for Patterson's chin since before Bodhi registered.

SO come on BE, pick a name in the holding pen and tell me about it.

 

Next and possibly final batch Butt, I promise.

 

I agree, LaMotta will get his chance - he wouldn't make my list though. For me, he's below Marshall, who kicked his ass.