The Top 100 Pound for Pound All-Time Greats

I would be quite happy to have any fight where illegal drugs were used to be changed to a no-contest

 

QUOTE=Mr Butt;14812965]my reply's is in the quote
good thread though isnt it[/QUOTE]

Rthanks for the response. I do acknowledge a slight slippage but its very miniscule imo. I agree with flea, we should abandon official records, otherwise we have lou ambers beating henry armstrong so unfairly, and we have bradley beating pacquiao. I personally refuse to do that to accomodate for corrupt decisions that ruin the sport tbh, it would be just so bob arum of me to just go with the official records lol. Chavez of course was past his prime but still legit as a world level fighter. What made you score for trinidad? Oscar landed 150 more punches and was clearly dominating. His corner even told him to run in the latter rounds because he was cruising to victory.

 

I'm not saying that. I'm saying you can take the ebb and flow of the fight for what it was and hand out kudos accordingly to both fighters for their showing. You're not overturning it but giving the 'losing' fighter the amount of respect for his showing that you'd have given him if you watched the same fight but his hand was raised at the end.

However, in a close fight that you think could've gone either way? I can't take credit away from the actual winner for a dodgy card (like Martinez-Williams I where P-Dub got some ludicrous 117-111 type card, maybe even worse forget the actual score) so, again to use an easy example, I wouldn't take credit away from Floyd if I felt that Castillo won their first fight (I don't) but would take credit from him for what Castillo was able to do to him despite Floyd winning the controversial decision (I actually had Floyd the winner by a couple of points)

Anyway, don't throw the official results out unless you think you see something way out of line with something you watched. Discuss it on here instead and work with others to find the consensus, that's the best thing to do I find, you never know what you mind find out about a certain fight, fighter or decision.

 

Rthanks for the response. I do acknowledge a slight slippage but its very miniscule imo. I agree with flea, we should abandon official records, otherwise we have lou ambers beating henry armstrong so unfairly, and we have bradley beating pacquiao. I personally refuse to do that to accomodate for corrupt decisions that ruin the sport tbh, it would be just so bob arum of me to just go with the official records lol. Chavez of course was past his prime but still legit as a world level fighter. What made you score for trinidad? Oscar landed 150 more punches and was clearly dominating. His corner even told him to run in the latter rounds because he was cruising to victory.[/QUOTE]

Pretty sure from memory it was the last three rounds over the next few weeks I will try to watch it again . But it will have to wait till I have found the time to watch the harada/jofre fights and a jofre DVD o grande campeao that arrived from brazil this morning

 

McGrain did you think this thread would be the monster it has turned into

 

true about the numbering , there are so many great fighters that 20 to 40 places apart although numerically quite far, in terms of a list like this are really quite close

 

Oh, I've had McGovern over Dixon for years, I didn't realise we were having this debate or I'd have chimed in.

Manassa were you at homie? I swear down you used to have McGovern>Dixon as well, why you being racist against Terry nowadays mayne??!?

 

Where can I get the final summary of everything we have on Packey? Surely there's like some huge online archive of every report circulated during his lifetime, complete fight play-by-plays and ringside reports??!? An uber thread that I somehow don't remember?

I've seen posts and discussed with others about him over the years and have seen the perception of him go up and up in these kinda' lists (my own too) BUT of this is the definitive list and he's right up there without even a whimper can I hear why?

Sigh. Impressed but find it hard to place him. From what I do know, I know he has to be in the top 50. With not enough context, I can't tell just how blown away I might be the more I read.

 

I think lou ambers should be higher

 

Yeah that's going to rattle some cages :admin