The Underrated/Overrated thread

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  1. Thread Stealer

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    At the time in the late 90s/early 00s, Hamed was overrated.

    Now, I tend to think he gets largely underrated. People often talk about how he fought such limited opposition. No, he didn't beat any greats, but he beat a nice slew of title-holders and contenders at 126, including Tom Johnson who had made a dozen straight defenses and was considered the top guy at FW at the time.
     
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    Jack Dempsey :huh
     
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    Hardly anyone underrates Aaron Pryor.
     
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    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Some other fighters who are underrated IMO:


    Young Corbett III
    Young Stribling
    Freddie Miller
    Pascual Perez
    Manuel Ortiz
    Peter Jackson
    Maxie Rosenbloom


    Some other fighters who are overrated IMO:




    Larry Holmes
    Stanley Ketchel
    Horacio Accavallo
    Terry Norris
    Roberto Duran (nothing against him, I have him in my Top- p4p- list, but he isn“t untouchable like many here perhaps thinks)
     
  5. DINAMITA

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    Someone already does on this thread. I believe Pryor had top 10 all-time ability, but can never be considered so great as he never got the big fights in the 1980s that would've proved it. History will underrate his ability because of this. If Pryor had jumped to welterweight and fought Hearns or Duran, I genuinely believe he could've done it. Or if Chavez had come along 5-10 years earlier, he could've had a superfight at 140 and won. IMO.
     
  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Underrated: Carlos Zarate, Riddick Bowe, Wilfred Benitez
    Overrated: Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Klitschko, Kelly Pavlik
     
  7. janitor

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    All the great flyweights apart from Jimmy Wilde are cronicaly under rated.

    The non heavyweight black dynamite crew like Jeff Clark, Bobby Dobbs and Dave Holly are grosley under rated.

    The non heavyweight murder row crew such as Jack Chase and Eddie Booker are also grosley under rated.

    A few pound for pound greats have slipped through the net of history. Tommy Ryan basicaly did as much in his era as Sugar Ray Leonard did in his.

    I could go on.
     
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    Pryor's own personal demons played a bigger part in him not achieving what he could have more so than not getting the big fights against bigger guys (whom he probably would have lost to).
     
  9. Mantequilla

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    Underrated

    Richie Kates
    Pierre Fourie
    Jorge Ahumada
    Chris Finnegan
    Lonnie Bennett
     
  10. Drew101

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    Overrated: Mike Tyson, Billy Conn, Jack Dempsey, Kostya Tszyu, Khosai Galaxy

    Underrated: Billy Soose, Tommy Burns, Saoul Mamby, Jiro Watanabe, Jimmy Bivens
     
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    Underrated: Jeff Fenech
    Overrated: James Toney
     
  12. janitor

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    Verry good pick.

    People think of Burns as one of the weaker lineal heavyweight champions and ignore his pound for pound credentials.

    Burs was scheduled to fight for the middleweight title at 160 lbs when he got the offer to fight Marvin Hart for the heavyweight title!!!!!!!!!!!

    While heavyweight champion he defeated the reigning light heavyweight champion while both fighters were under the light heavyweight limit. Burns basicaly let O'Brien keep the title. The only other fighters to establish lineage at heavy and light heavy are Bob Fitzsimmons and Michael Spinks.
     
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    Underrated

    Joe Frazier, Pernell Whitaker, Archie Moore, Jack Johnson

    Overrated

    Klitschko Bros, Oscar Delahoya, Prince Nassem Hamed, Joe Calzaghe
     
  14. TommyV

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    Under-rated: Jeff 'The Joplin Ghost' Clark
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    Hey - Shanes a good fighter!!! :D

    But on the other last time i looked you were saying similar. I'm sure of it. You just want to see me taken to town and back!! :lol: