The WBC ruling on Whyte

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In two weeks, Dominic Breazeale will be able to say he's received TWO world heavyweight title fights ... thanks to Al Haymon.

    How many world heavyweight title fights has Dillian Whyte received ... thanks to Eddie Hearn?
     
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  2. Aydamn

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    Hearn delivered the title shot to Whyte, Joshua made an unreasonable split.

    So he did get his shot. Hunter just joined the pact, and how many HW bouts has he had? Not going to put him in with Joshua right of the bat, because:

    A. He isn't ranked/not a mandatory
    B. He has little marketability
    C. He is unproven at Joshua's level
     
  3. Aydamn

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    That just proves one thing, matchroom are way more reasonable people to deal with than PBC when it comes to titleshots at their champions.

    Whyte got his shot at Joshua in matchroom.

    Breazeale vs Joshua was made simple.

    Whyte vs Wilder has not been made simple.

    Breazeale vs Wilder was made difficult but eventually got done.

    Ergo it's PBC/WBC problem.
     
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  4. Special one

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    I would tell Dubblechin he had the ring top 5 listed in the wrong order!! But he already knew that!!
     
  5. de Morhalle

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    Right Dubblechin , Whyte went down the WBC rankings systems not the WBA , IBF or WBO's . Whyte has fought rankings in the WBC to earn a shot at the belt . Remember just because your a ranked man in the WBC does not mean you are ranked elsewhere . In regards to Breazeale and PBC giving him two title shots , yes good for them , this is because Breazeale has no belt and they ready to send him anywhere . Where has DW actually gone with the WBC belt ? never left US only fought people ranked far below him near all american or american based boxers . This is about keeping a HW belt in the US .
     
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  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whyte is the WBO #1 contender. Whyte fights for Matchroom. Hearn is Whyte's promoter. Joshua fights for Matchroom. Joshua is the WBO champ. Hearn is Joshua's promoter. If you asked Whyte, I'm sure he'd say the reason he signed with Hearn was to get a title fight with Joshua.

    Unfortunately, Whyte has fought for Matchroom for four years and can't get a title shot with Joshua.

    Hunter has fought for Matchroom for a year or so now, and he couldn't get a shot at Joshua on June 1 even though he was supposedly the frontrunner.

    I'm sure Whyte could get a title shot if he brought in Haymon as an advisor and worked with the PBC. Nearly every heavyweight who has signed with the PBC has gotten a title shot against Wilder or Joshua or BOTH.

    How many heavyweights from Matchroom (other than Joshua) have?

    You seem to be the guy who posted here or year or so ago and got banned who went on and on about UK vs US fighters and how many champs each country had, because you bring it up all the time.

    Wilder has defended his WBC belt against fighters from England, France, Cuba, Poland and Haiti ... so this "keeping it in the U.S." bull is just that ... bull.
     
  7. de Morhalle

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    Yes and the WBA , WBO and IBF mandatory are being called up after the Ruiz fight . I'm pretty sure Whyte was named the WBO number 1 for a while whereas at the WBC he has been the number 1 for a couple of years I think , I'm not 100% . So a Joshua V Whyte fight is definite no matter what within a year .

    Hunter was a frontrunner for the AJ fight your right , I even did a poll between Ruiz Hunter and voted Hunter , guess what ? It was 50/50 so clearly a lot of Americans like Ruiz just as much so I cannot argue with either one a 50/50 poll . Also Hunter is fighting Takam soon a replacement for Usyk so Hunter's stock is rising so to is Ruiz's regardless of outcome .

    Whoa Whyte needs to have Haymon as an advisor for a WBC HW fight ??? Hmm kinda proving my point here aren't you Dubblechin . Nearly every PBC fighter has gotten a title shot against Joshua . No Matchroom fighter has gotten a title shot against Wilder tho ? .

    Nope I joined when my profile stated , I never knew this site existed until then , I heard from two sources Rummy's corner on YouTube and Bruce F....in Vane on YouTube . Never been banned either you can ask a moderator or staff member to check this out . I don't use sock puppet accounts or log in different users I've always been de Morhalle on this site and Google .

    Since Wilder won the WBC he has never fought outside the US at all . Stiverne is actually Canadian (born in Haiti) he is a Canadian based boxer under Don King , its only Duhaupas and Spilka who were outsiders neither one top 10 by anyones book and guess what , PBC had the other belts . The only credible outsider was Fury who coming back and not favored to win at all and look how things are going since then .
     
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  8. Angler Andrew

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    you'll never hear me sympathise with Povetkin or five Wilder stick for that as it was similar out to Joshua with Miller in that tried of never let Wilder fight someone on PEDs,too dangerous.
    That said let's not pretend dragging Stiverne back up the rankings after already been beaten once before by Wilder and had fought just one fight where he looked awful.
    Let's call a spade a spade hear,promoting Stiverne for a rematch with as an awful move and if you want to justify it by Povetkin testing positive for a PED then you might want to question why when Stiverne tested positive for a banned substance he was allowed to pay a fine and keep his mandatory status?
    Not got a problem with Breazele as it happens as I actually like the fight but that Stiverne rematch was in the pipeline for ages despite the networks and the public hating that fight.
    You've also gotta question why they even bother handing out those WBC silver belts as it would imply the holder of that belt is the next in line no?
     
  9. Angler Andrew

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    Can't argue with that when you point out those facts,still this thread as far as I can tell isn't about Wilder and who he would fight since I suspect he's frightened of nobody.Rather this thread is about the WBC and the lengths they go to,to stop Wilder from being his own man and has it happens on the back of Ortiz and Fury I've no problem with Breazele.
    Also dead right about Fury,all looked so good until he signed that deal which prevents him facing Wilder and AJ imo.
    Not the only management to act like this though as Haymon put the kybosh on Ortiz facing Joshua as did other possible opponents.
    Said the other day that I'm sick of hearing that it's all Wilder or all Fury or AJs fault as imo all three come out of this looking bad imo.The networks want the we fights,the fans definitely want em and the money for em all is in the tens of millions so I really don't wanna hear from either who's fault it is as they ought to be meeting up behind closed doors and hammering out the details as they could literally fight each other three times each.
     
  10. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Okay prove why he deserves top 5 consideration? Ortiz resume certainly doesn't.
     
  11. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Based on absolutely nothing and ducked a shot at 3 belts for $7 million.
     
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  12. It's Ovah

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