the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

I agree his style was counter punching style, but when he had to turn it up and go in trenches he did vs Blake, Arroyo, Perez.

In the Haugen fight he had no fire at all, and the sharpness wasn't there either just totally flat.

I think I heard somewhere before, that he claimed all them fights that went back to back 15 rounds took alot out of him.

 

The bit about all the hard 15-rounders is the line I always use, might have been me!

 

I wonder what Victor Galindez would have said about that statement. The man wrote the book on hard 15 rounders where he left a lot of blood and sweat in rings all over the world. Don't think he would have thought much of Paul's statement.

 

I also think he looked exceptionally drawn and thin towards the end of his lightweight reign. I don't think it was necessarily the fact he had to go 15 rounds per se, just that he probably belonged at 140. That's Kronk for ya though.

 

Yeah, the Kronk wrote the book on freakishly tall and/or skinny fighters - Hearns and McCrory at welter and Kinty and Paul at lightweight.

 

With the gym itself having the temperature jacked up to ridiculous heat levels, anything to sweat off that extra ounce. After a while, that takes its toll.

 

Just watched Nino Benvenuti-Luis Rodriguez, for Benvenuti's middleweight crown in 1969. Bluntly put, this fight was a hot mess. Almost no redeeming qualities whatsoever. At one point, the fans threw fruit into the ring, presumably because they needed something to occupy their time. Horrible clash of styles, with two fighters who weren't known for excitement to begin with.

Nino looked huge compared to Luis, and used the size disparity to bull Rodriguez around a bit for the first couple rounds. After that, the challenger gained his footing somewhat and tried to dance around and potshot with the jab. Nino replied by closing the distance and attempted to mug the smaller man against the ropes, pushing him over the top rope in an attempt to deposit the challenger into the laps of those armed with fruit.

Time after time after time. It was quite tedious. Finally Benvenuti lands a left hook in the 11th, rescuing the viewers from any more non-carnage.

1. Benvenuti
2. Benvenuti
3. Rodriguez
4. Rodriguez
5. Rodriguez
6. Even
7. Rodriguez
8. Rodriguez
9. Benvenuti
10. Rodriguez
11. KO for Benvenuti

 

Hilmer Kenty vs Vilomar Fernandez

1 Kenty
2 Kenty
3 Fernandez
4 Fernandez
5 Kenty
6 Fernandez
7 Kenty
8 Kenty
9 Kenty
10 Kenty
11 Even
12 Kenty
13 Fernandez
14 Fernandez
15 Kenty

145-141 Kenty

I enjoyed this fight a good contrast of styles, the taller fighter being the aggressor and shorter man being the counter puncher.

I thought the first 6 rounds were highly competitive Kenty moving forward being aggressor behind the jab and occasional right. And Fernandez countering well to the body and occasional left hook upstairs.

After the 6th round i felt Kenty controlled the fight as Fernandez's counter punching become less and less effective. Kenty was starting to get more brave and started putting some hurtful shots together on Fernandez especially with the right hand and Fernandez showing a great chin as these shots were flush right on the button.

The 11th round was the best round of the fight as Fernandez abandoned his normal counter punching style and decided to trade punches with Kenty. It also stopped Kenty's momentum as he was starting to get on top, it was a very back and forth round as Kenty controlled the 1st half with Fernandez controlling the 2nd half a very hard round to score.

Going into the 13th round it looked like Kenty was going to cruise to a decision, but then suddenly out of nowhere Kenty got hurt by Fernandez and then got a leg cramp ? he seemed to be in real difficulty from the leg cramp and fatigued and looked somewhat close to being stopped. There was also a disputed knockdown which was hard to tell but Kenty survived the round.

The 14th round was another good round from Fernandez as Kenty's leg still seemed to be bothering him. But to Kenty's credit he dug deep to win the 15th round and survived the late scare.

Overall i enjoyed this fight it had a few back and forth moments and a dramatic last 3 rounds with the leg cramp and Kenty's tiring down the stretch to add to the drama.

 

Interesting about the leg cramps. Dehydration. More Kronkisms, as per our earlier discussion about Jimmy Paul.

 

Didn't they also say Hearns had leg cramps vs Hagler ? although Kenty's leg cramp was actually legit. Not so sure i believe Hearns's leg cramp were legit, Hearns's problem was that he had a pissed off Marvin Hagler infront of him.

 

Against Hagler, Hearns said a couple handlers gave him leg massages and when Steward saw that, he flew off the handle, knowing it would make his legs rubbery.

 

Hilmer Kenty VS Young Ho Oh

I didn't bother scoring this one as there was some rounds missing, from what i saw Kenty
mostly dominated/controlled the fight. Ho Oh started off the first round with intent trading punches with Kenty. But after that spirited first round Ho Oh went into a shell, laying on the ropes just taking punishment from Kenty.

To me it just seemed like Ho Oh was just banking on landing one shot, and to his credit he did actually land a good left hook in the 7th round. Which rocked Kenty and had him in some difficulty, but Kenty managed to survive the round.

But after Ho Oh's best round of the fight, he went back into his shell of laying on the ropes taking punishment. And in the 9th round Ho Oh took quite a beating and i felt the ref should of jumped in sooner, but Kenty won by TKO in a pretty one sided fight for him outside of the 1st and 7th rounds.

Just a final thought i kept thinking of Hearns vs Cuevas when i was watching this fight, because it was in the same arena and the height difference between the two fighters reminded me of it.

 

Dennis Andries v Jeff Harding I (light heavyweight title)

Sometime back @PhillyPhan69 did a real study on all 3 of the Andries-Harding fights (Philly, I miss your posts on this thread) and needed to check this one out again.

Round 1: 10-9 Andries
Round 2: 10-9 Andries
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Andries
Round 5: 10-8 Andries (scored a knockdown)
Round 6: 10-9 Andries
Round 7: 10-9 Harding
Round 8: 10-9 Harding
Round 9: 10-10 Even
Round 10: 10-9 Andries
Round 11: 10-9 Harding
Round 12: Harding drops Andries twice and the fight is stopped

Total through 11 completed rounds: 107-103 Andries (actual scores: 106-103, 107-105 and 104-103 all for Andries)

Man, I remember watching this fight so vividly live. The last third of this bout was a nail-biter, on whether or not Harding would take out Andries - who was gassing badly. The fighters were two different animals. Harding was an accumulative combo fighter, lacking a big dig and lacking the ability to duck. Andries was amazing inasmuch as how far he went without an iota of fundamentals. He had no jab, no combos and every punch he threw was a singular bomb. Again, a nail-biter when it was live. One could opt to score differently I suppose on rounds 5 and 11. I went with the tried and true by giving Andries a 10-8 round in the 5th, but really - on replay - the knockdown was more of a forearm pull-down. But it was counted by the ref. Also, the 11th was getting close to a 10-8 for Harding, but not quite there on my card. A more liberal judge might say it was 10-8. Good fight.

 

I know the 1st fight always gets talked about and rightfully so, but I remember the 3rd fight being equally as good. And no one ever really talks about it much.

 

Usyk vs Mchunu

This fight starts off very competitive, Usyk looks the bigger man by Mchunu looks to have the edge in accuracy and timing. I actually gave him the first two rounds.

But in the third Usyk turned it up and Mchunu couldn't hang with him any more, and actually when Usyk fought with more intensity, it was apparent he was more accurate and had better timing.

From the third on he just basically chipped away at Mchunu until the ending came in the 9th when Usyk forced a stoppage.

Very good victory against a tough opponent.