The ' Who did he beat' question

Fair points as usual.

 

It was an open thread asking for revisions if need be that everyone checked. McGrain is through like the sun is hot.

 

Great post. Thomas was just better than Witherspoon, certainly against each other. Witherspoon was in great shape. Thomas had more success than Holmes with his jab (Holmes jab was losing a bit of snap and Thomas had a GREAT jab at any rate) and he took his punches better than Holmes, never being in trouble at any point. It's Thomas' finest hour.

 

Norton was a better fighter than Witherspoon with a better record. He also sports a much stronger resume. Norton's close to top 20 while Witherspoon wouldn't be top 30.

 

This feels like a loaded question, but comparing to the Ali that Norton fought, I believe that the Bruno win is superior to it. Past that, I'll take Witherspoon's wins over Norton's.
I'm only gonna take into account Witherspoon's first fourteen years into account so that it's fair for Norton, as he fought for much longer than him.
Witherspoon has:
13 - 0 Ratliff
22 - 1 - 1 Snipes
26 - 3 Tillis
23 - 1 Page
17 - 1 Broad
15 - 3 Smith
21 - 0 Tubbs
28 - 1 Bruno
13 - 0 Mike Williams
31 - 12 - 2 Alexander
22 - 5 Sims
31 - 4 - 1 Ribalta
23 - 3 Carl Williams

And Norton has:
24 - 7 - 3 Clark
41 - 1 Ali
32 - 3 Kirkman
50 - 7 - 4 Quarry
30 - 7 - 1 Garcia
28 - 8 - 2 Stander
22 - 8 - 2 Larry Middleton
52 - 2 - 0 Ali (Should be here)
38 - 0 Bobick
20 - 2 - 1 Zanon
22 - 5 - 2 Young (Shouldn't be here)
17 - 0 Cobb

 

Thanks mate!

 

He beat Mercer but got robbed, and kinda was too old to do too much past then, he has a major losing streak past 97.

 

That Ali had beat more ranked fighters in the previous 12 months than Bruno did in his career.

You are laying it on quite thick for Witherspoon. Beyond reason, I have to say.

 

You got a link to it? I'll check it out.

 

He was out of shape and caught badly for the fight, didn't assume enough of Norton, he also immediately beat Norton by UD in their following match. The Ali that Norton beat was NOT the Ali we know.

 

For sure -

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...best-fighter-on-the-planet-most-often.701311/

Be sure to tell McGrain and the rest of us where we went wrong.

 

Opinions ain't wrong, I don't come on this forum to enforce my ideas on others, lol.

 

There's reasonably limited room for opinion in this one.

 

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Tubbs was out of shape too, as previously discussed. Etc, etc.

Beating Ali (not to mention two disputed decision losses to same) trumps anything on Tim’s record. The idea that Frank freaking Bruno is a better win than Ali is preposterous.

 

What's with you and Tubbs? I said multiple times that we must take into account everything about a fight, a win is a win and a loss is a loss, but there's a difference between Ali being out of it for a fight and Tubbs being out of it fight. This taken into consideration along with him winning a UD over Norton in their very next fight shows to me that it isn't as good of a win as it's thought to be.