~ The Yuriorkis Gamboa Bandwagon ~

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigBone, Jan 30, 2008.


  1. The Joker

    The Joker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The draw with John was cause of clash of heads in the forth round. He then loses to him in a rematch in with Rojas was dropped twice. His win over Caballero was during Caballero's 17 pro fight. Hardly something to cheer about in all 3 fight I just mentioned. Elio is rated #8 in the rankings. Is Jose even ranked??
     
  2. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Never seen Jose Rojas. Elio would have been a VERY interesting fight.
     
  3. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Talent????? YES!!!!!Young prospect??? That is debatable. At 27 and with so many years boxing I think Gamboa is in his prime. He is good, but I don't think he is going to get much better. This should be his moment and he should take advantage of it.
     
  4. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How is calling Yuri "talented" debatable?
     
  5. Brickhaus

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    He's #1 in the WBA rankings and has been in and out of the Ring top 10 for the past few years. Yes, I realize the draw with John was really a technical draw, but it shows that he's able to keep up with good boxers for at least a few rounds.

    Who the hell has Elio Rojas beaten? He lost to fricking Gamaliel Diaz a year ago, so you can't claim he's anything that great. His other "big" wins are a UD against a guy Gamboa knocked out in the first round, and a UD over a shot gatekeeper in Hector Velasquez.

    Elio would have been more likely to have given Yuri problems because he has a better chin and is younger, but Rojas is a crafty veteran with some significant wins on his resume. Biggest issue is that he hasn't had many fights against good opposition lately, since he's been protecting his #1 ranking by the WBA for the last 3 or 4 years.
     
  6. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Talented is not. I mean, "young propect". I save that term for some kid who is coming up. Most boxers turn champions with half the mileage Gamboa has.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Is John still champ?

    Therefore, Gamboa vs. John could actually be in the States AND an event.

    Wow.

    Let's hope Yuriorkis doesn't slip up here, I assume he'll probably make it through, but I have the niggling feeling he'll get too overconfident soon and not realise til he's too many rounds behind to catch up.

    Don't think he has a bad chin. Naseem Hamed was dropped loads of times but never looked like getting hurt. None of the fighters Gamboa has been dropped by were any worse than Augie Sanchez. (the first ever KD he suffered was a definite slip, no doubt about it, it's plain to see)

    I'm sure he will keep his hands up should he face a moving up JuanManuel Lopez (dear God what a fight that would be! Imagine Gamboa beats John, JuanMa beats Vasquez/Marquez/Cabellero you pick one, then moves up!!!) or Chris John, who has sting in his punches.

    Though the logical thing for his team to do is for him to move up to 130 again, as he seemed comfortable there, and try and cram in as many super/title fights (different things entirely nowadays) in as few as fights as possible (knowing he's probably due to go off the rails soon with the cash and stardom and/or at 27 he's not a fresh faced young pup and is probably getting tired of boxing now he doesn't need to box to make ends meet)

    Personally I hope Gamboa stays on the right tracks and goes on to have a long and succesfull boxing career. He has the talent to be an ATG. However, I feel he will slip up soon once the money makes him care less about training and more about the things that American offers but Cuba doesn't, and I think he will be one of those Naz/Tyson/Don Curry-esque 'what coulda been (?)' scenarios, accomplished nonetheless and great in their prime, but what prime?)




    In short, I've been on the bandwagon for some time. Just hope it keeps rolling :good
     
  8. The Joker

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    Elio drills Jose if they were to fight bellie dat. Just cause Gamboa ko's someone in the first and the other guy goes the distance doesnt mean he can beat said opponent. Elio is bigger and just as fast as Gamboa. Only difference is that Elio can take a punch and Gamboa has hit the deck more then a like. This fight was talked about before hand but I dont know why it didnt go down. I know Elio wants the title shot so it couldnt have been him who turned down the chance to fight Gamboa, unless he was hurt.
     
  9. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ah, my bad.

    Plus he's Cuban, so he's probably closer to 32...
     
  10. Brickhaus

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    The notion that Rojas is as fast as Gamboa is absurd and completely laughable. Your credibility just flew out the window on that one. It's not as if Rojas has never been on TV before, though admittedly I haven't seen the Diaz fight. He's not that quick though. He's big and well built and has good fundamentals, but he doesn't have anywhere close to Gamboa's speed.

    I brought up the KO not to say that Gamboa is better, but that it's not that great of a win. Edwards got completely destroyed by Gamboa.

    Elio Rojas is ranked behind both Gamboa and Jose Rojas in the WBA's rankings. It wasn't Elio's decision, it was Jose's. Originally Jose didn't want to take the fight (he's ducked out from facing Gamboa twice before already), so they were going to make the fight with Elio, who was the next highest ranked available contender. Plus, now that it's for the actual belt and not an eliminator, the WBA can't just skip over Jose to give Elio a shot.
     
  11. The Joker

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    You think Elio is a slow fighter?? You need to watch him again. Maybe you missed it. Elio gives Gamboa a better fight then Jose. I expect Jose to be stopped early. Dodging Gamboa twice is all I need to know about Jose's confidence in him winning the fight.
     
  12. FINITO

    FINITO Boxing Junkie banned

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    Gamboa fighting Rojas on SHOWTIME is worse than Andre Dirrell/Findley this past week..


    Showtime has been slipping and they better step up cuz they're getting their asses beat by HBO this year..

    ANy way...

    Jorge Linares KO3 Glassboa
     
  13. Brickhaus

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    Did I say he was slow? Stop putting words into my mouth. Gamboa has the best handspeed in the division, and is top 5 P4P in terms of handspeed right now. Rojas doesn't have anywhere near that kind of handspeed. He's not slow, and he's not a plodder, but he's not blazing fast either.
     
  14. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gamboa might have the fastest hands south of 140.

    The main reason an Elio fight intrigued me is that he's a fellow young prospect/ contender, throws fairly straight punches, would probably be the best athlete Yuri has faced yet as a pro, and wouldn't be showing up to collect a check.

    It's sounding like Jose Rosas will be looking for an exit before the halfway mark. And those kinds of fights aren't good for Yuri in the long run. This guy needs to start using real challenges to keep himself focused. We all already know he can fill a highlight reel with KOs.
     
  15. Brickhaus

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    Hell, here's what I said about Elio about 5 or so pages back, the first time the rumor came up, so you can't accuse me of calling him slow.