This bs Invation: Phil Vs World

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by pelican, Apr 8, 2008.


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  1. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    arce does not have a belt. there are no mexican champs at 118
     
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  2. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    It's for hyping up the fight.

    What do you think sounds better,

    INVASION:
    PHILIPPINES VS THE WORLD

    or

    ARANETA COLISEUM BOXING:
    FILIPINO PROSPECTS VS INTERNATIONAL TOMATO CANS    ​




    Yes, the "Tomato can" label's harsh. I was exaggerating. They werent bums, but they werent Class A either.
     
    bulakenyo, Apr 9, 2008
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  3. pelican

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    yep. hes a big name out there bud
    ​
     
    pelican, Apr 9, 2008
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  4. 1punch1nder

    1punch1nder **Bam Bam** Full Member

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    i don't know why some people are upset, it was a great event for the filipinos.
     
    1punch1nder, Apr 9, 2008
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  5. pelican

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    they were bums, imo. especially herrera, pinabili lang yata ng suka yun sa kanto, boksingero na.
     
    pelican, Apr 9, 2008
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  6. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the biggest mismatch that night was banal and the dude from uruguay. and even that dude has a good record. everyone in here flamed boomboom for having a china-chin, now that he faced a opponent lower than the class hw took on before, some guys are crying that it's unfair.

    so boomboom vs ponce de leon, not a mismatch then
    boomboom vs camargo, is suddenly a mismatch? what the hell do you want the guy to do? continue being knocked out cold by big punchers? of course they'll try to get him opponents that he could beat.
     
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  7. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if you want mismatches, go to thailand. filipinos in the pro debuts fight world caliber champs there. no foreign fighter was ever seriously hurt when in the philippines. a filipino died in thailand a few months ago because the fought to former champs in the span of weeks.

    don't look at us and wash you hands by saying we spoonfeed our fighters. how many wins does julio cesar chavez have? how many of those opponents actually had a chance at winning?
     
    theunderdog, Apr 9, 2008
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  8. pelican

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    wow undie! herreras record was not good at all. try to look beyond his numbers and youll discover that this guy was nothing.

    herreras last fights going tot he banal bout:
    monte (13-4-3)
    vicente (16-10-0)
    narvaes (10-9-1)
    lopez (17-14-3)
    toledo (10-14-3)
    martinez (13-7-0)
    toledo (10-12-3)
    amado (8-12-3)

    and the best record of any of his opponent in his resume was tihs
    caruso (8-1-1).

    as to camargo, his record going to the fight was this:
    W KO3 espinosa (2-18-0)
    W TKO1 acosta (1-14-0)
    L TKO3 yanes (13-0-0)
    W tko1 lopez (6-7-1)
    W TKO1 castro (0-1-0)
    L UD6 marquez (9-0-3)

    and tell me, where do the sanctioning bodies place camargos name in their rankings? i believe he was nowhere near the top ten (or even top 15)

    and grapevine talks has it that GBP boys decided to feed boom with a patsy to boost his confidence. that shocking lost to deleon must have been very demoralizing.

    as to sor vor, hes a done fighter, old, washed-up. do you really expect an 82 fight pro to put on a good show against a master? much more beat him?

    they were all mismatches. its feeding the wolves, not exactly an invasion. :thumbsupnuff said.
     
    pelican, Apr 9, 2008
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  9. pelican

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    im not handwashing dude, nor blaming our fighters for that. if youll read my article once more youll see my point.
    that this whole invasion thing was nothing but another craze designed to boost the marketability of the fighters at the expense of real fights and genuine sense of national pride.
     
    pelican, Apr 9, 2008
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  10. Marc

    Marc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    well put
     
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  11. pelican

    pelican Guest

    :good
     
    pelican, Apr 9, 2008
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  12. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i wasn't referring to you bro. i'm was actually telling that to the non-filipinos who dropped by and started insulting the whole card.
     
    theunderdog, Apr 9, 2008
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  13. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    when it comes to boomboom, anyone who can punch has a chance to beat him because he is china-chinned. penalosa's case was rather odd becasue his opponent was not handpicked, unlike the other matches. vorapin was really the number 1 challenger so we really could not do anything about that. as i've said before, the banal fight was the most obvious mismatch.

    if camargo connected before boomboom did, it wouldn't be a mismatch at all.
     
    theunderdog, Apr 9, 2008
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  14. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You forgot Bernabe Concepcion!! That's our best bet at 122. He's better than Boom-Boom.
     
    PacDbest, Apr 9, 2008
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  15. pelican

    pelican Guest

    i can hear you dude. still a mismatch anyway:good
    i still doubt if he could take out boom with a punch, or even with a combo. looking at his record made me skeptic. look at the way he throws punches, too wild and wide. boom lands neat counters anytime.
     
    pelican, Apr 9, 2008
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