This guy would Spark Wladimir Klitschko

Ali vs Big Cat?

 

Lamon Brewster and Corrie Sanders actually would have a chance at Ali. Sanders due to power and Lamon due to style after all style wise Ali and Wlad aren't that different and Brewster was an inside fighter.

Who cares if Ali beats Wlad or other way around?
I sure don't.

 

Look at the *'s in my post.

 

Ali would use all of his handspeed, accuracy, footwork and stamina to outwork Wladimir all the way. Ali simply outhinks Wladimir every now and then and comes out first of more than 3-quarters of the exchanges.

 

The one punch that I felt where missing from the haye- klitscko fight was the Jab from haye. When he used it he acually landed it wich is rare when someone is fighting a klitscko.

Alis got a better jab and is faster with it probably.


So Ali would probably give Wladimir alot more problems then Haye atleast.

 

Ali and Frazier fought 3 of boxing history's epic fights, and only two men ever managed to stop Frazier - Ali and Foreman.

Foreman was a 40-0 wrecking ball when Ali stopped him. If you know the fight you'll understand the magnitude of Ali's win. Ali is the only man who stopped Foremen from hearing the final bell in his 81 fight twin career.

Chuck Wepner was a useful fighter in the 70's and would be a much more than useful fighter in today's heavyweight division.

Liston was 35-1 and owned the heavyweight division until Ali became the first man to stop him, take his title, and then stop him again.

Patterson was 43-4 before Ali schooled him and then stopped him in the 12th. Patterson's losses prior were to Liston (twice), Johansson and Joey Maxim. Any one of those 3 would clean out most of today's heavyweight division with little difficulty.

Archie Moore was a ring legend and a big step at the time for the developing 20 year old at the time Ali.

You have also conveniently left out some of the other names I mentioned, in Lyle, Foster, Quarry, Ellis, Bonavena and Folley.

 

Is this a joke? Ali was featherfisted, stop bringing up these stoppages.

Ali would never stop either K brother on a KO, if anything then he could drop them with a good counter and they'd get up on an 8 count. Or maybe get a TKO injury stoppage vs. fragile Vitali.

But he wouldn't ever KO either brother. No way.

 

The entire myth of Ali/Frazier/Foreman is built on the circle jerk of fights the three of them had against eachother. I don't rate Frazier nor Foreman very highly. They're a combined 1 in 4 vs. Ali, Frazier is 1 in 5 in his big fights.

 

How would Patterson clean out the whole hw division today?
p4p, yes. But I doubt he would survive a few jabs from Wlad.
Also unless the whole lhw and cw divisions have degressed more than the hw division, how come we don't have sub 200 fighters competing for the belt anymore? (Except RJJ against Ruiz)

Liston was a rather slow puncher with telegraphed shots and he could KO Patterson in 1, Wlad would have no trouble hitting Patterson.


Archie Moore was getting ancient.

Chuck Wepner was a super bum, he would still be a super bum today.

Liston took a dive the second fight and ruined his shoulder in the first because his jabs are so easy to dodge if you're dancing on his outside.
It might be possible he was Ali his second oldest opponent after Moore.

The frazier-Ali trilogy might be epic, but it is also a sign of stupidity.
Ali couldn't keep frazier at the distance or knock him out soon, and frazier couldn't avoid damage either.
Why do you rank struggle so much higher than domination?

 

You don't read or pay attention any better than your teenage friends here. Have another read of what I said, or more correctly DIDN'T say about Patterson atsch

Liston and Foreman completely dominated far, far stronger divisions than today's. You won't find anybody who actually knows anything about the sport disagree on that :yep

Trying to change history isn't clever. Particularly when you are so illinfirmed and were obviously not even born when Ali was fighting

 

It's considered blasphemy to disagree on this, but I do.

 

He's just a kid looking for attention. No surprise there :good

 

Stylistically we are talking "spark" I would say prime Tyson much more so.

 

It's been fun. I'll leave you attention seeking, young Google warriors to it :hi: