Tommy Loughran vs. Bob Foster

vs

Primo Carnera II
Mickey Walker
James Braddock
sharkey I where loughran was knocked out by 1 punch


and I think against slattery




I cant believe some people here claim he looks better on film than say......a harold johnson let alone a charles, moore, foster.

 

Foster was troubled by movers and Tommy had a solid chin and some power, I like Tommy by UD

 

sharkey knocked out loughran with one punch, his non powerful weak right hand.

 

I don't think the best of Loughran was captured on film.

With Carnera he was outweighed by 80 odd pounds. Mickey Walker would be hard for any boxer to look good against (and he is better than anyone Foster ever beat just to add) and against Braddock yeah he didn't look too good, but he was going through the motions with him in a fight he struggled to make weight in.

 

SS i also have the film of loughran-sharkey I where loughran is knocked out by one punch, sharkeys very weak right hand which he had virtually no power in due to a injury early in his career

 

Mickey Walker better than dick tiger? I dont know about that. Either way hes a welterweight, not a light heavweight. Im sure foster would have crushed walker h2h.

 

Could someone get me some film of Loughran so I can analyze this match-up.
Otherwise, I'm going to have to say Foster.

 

You are going to have to start doing a little research. Do you have any idea at all of how old Tiger was when he fought Foster or what career stage he was at? :huh

You do realise Tiger was a genuine middleweight? :huh

NEITHER man was in reality a light heavyweight under your terms. BOTH have however earned the right to be respected there.

Tiger vs Walker at 160 is actually a mouth watering matchup. Both are great fighters, P4P Walker prolly even more so.

 

well before the fight tiger beat torres twice, and after the fight he beat a prime nino benvenuti and several light heavyweight contenders. It would be stupid to write it off as a 'useless' win. Dick tiger wasnt exactly in his prime during his 20s. He was a late boomer.

 

He sure as hell wasn't in his prime when he fought Foster either. As for weight, well Tiger came in miles under the 175 limit.

After the fight he beat several 175 contenders? He only had two wins after excluding Nino lol. Several tsk. I'm not convinced either or both were "contenders either".

Walker beat many 175 contenders. Myriads scored his title fight vs Slapsie Maxie resoundingly for Walker. You build up Tigers resume but don't even consider Walkers. The man is on film. He's the real deal. To call him a welterweight but then boast of Tiger as a light heavyweight is the pinnacle of lack of knowledge.

 

i agree tiger was a late bloomer. however he was at his best in the early 1960s at 160lb.

 

no i was just responding to sweet scientists claim that walker was better than all of foster's opponents, head to head.

You dont convincingly beat a top light heavyweight like jose torres twice and then all of sudden become shot. Especially when you beat benvenuti right after the fight and Contender andy kendall.

The fact that walker beat rosenbloom, just makes maxie lose credibiltiy. None of the top light heavyweight champs from the michael spinks era lost to middleweights, let alone a ****ing welterweight.

 

It was a fair statement too. Walker is a great fighter over many weights.

Still don't get him past Walker tho.

This is where you shoot yourself in the footsie. Foster beat a Middleweight to win at 175 under your criteria, which is sure as hell what Tiger was thoughout his career. I'm not sure i remember Spinks era fighting middleweights, Hagler sure didn't step on up. Walker had no trouble fighting around 170 or a bit more at various stages. Truth be told he fought higher more often than Tiger. I'd contend both best weights would be very very similar to each other. Walker fought about a decade at 160-175. He was a welter in his early 20's. Robinson started at lightweight/junior welter for a bit too.

I'm one for laffing off the great feats of the cobweb era, little men trashing big men as common place yada yada. But Mickey Walker is above that and demands the right to be rated at 160 and 175 accordingly. His track record is beyond reproach.

 

That's one I haven't seen, but Loughran was never quite up to it outside the lightheavy ranks so it doesn't surprise me.

 

Well said JT. Mickey Walker not only fought competitively with lightheavies like Rosenbloom and Loughran, he competed well with most heavyweights as well. He was tough as nails, even at lightheavy. I've seen a good 30 mins of the Walker-Loughran fight, and though Loughran was a boxer and of course inclined to move around, the way Walker would walk him down on occasions and push through everything Loughran threw at him was freaky.

Also, if we are going to question the credibility of Rosenbloom at lightheavy, then we should turn around and question the credibility of Jose Torres and Nino Benvenuti (what credibility?) at lightheavy as well.