Tommy Morrison vs Corrie Sanders

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  1. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What top heavyweight did Sanders ever beat besides Wlad Klitchko? he was waxed by Rahman, in 1999, and blasted out in 1 round by someone named Osborne Machimana?? in 2008??

    Oh yea he KO'D Bobby Czyz who was about half his size...

    Yea he beat Bert Cooper too, but hell so did a lot of others...

    Sanders was a poor mans Lamon Brewester....

    I mean cmon the guy's Morrison faced were a helluva lot more talented, and dangerous, it's too bad he got that virus or he probably could have fought another 10 years...
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Perhaps you should view some of these fights before commenting on them.

    He had Rahman all but finished before he gassed and was stopped in the 7th. He was not a fighter made for distance fights but neither was Morrison.

    He not only KO'd Czyz who had just given Holyfield a very tough fight until his back gave out, he was the first guy to KO Al Cole, and did so in the first round, he KO'd a very dangerous Bert Cooper in 3 not long after he had come within a hair's breadth of winning the heavy title. He KO'd Waldo and he certainly hurt iron-chinned Vitali, worse than ever Lewis did. Was he the second coming of Joe Louis? Not quite. But a very dangerous fighter who was more relaxed and fluid and more natural fighter than Morrison. He knew how to attack to finish while Morrison threw like a nervous student at times. I like both guys. But Sanders just had more of instinct and that would count in what sure would have been a short night.

    And the Machimana contest was when Sanders was 43 and weighing 20 pounds over his competitive weight. I guess Ali should chastised for losing to Berbick, also...
     
  3. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Morrison KO'D Quick Tillis, Carl truth Williams, Pinky Thomas, Joe Hipp, i admit Hipp wasn't exactly the 2nd coming of Ali, but he was a tough as nails gritty fighter, Razor Ruddock, and of course Foreman, and same Foreman that put Moorer on his ass 1 year later...

    Morrison lost to Lennox, and Sanders lost to Vitali, obviously it was more of a moral victory to lose to Lennox since he stopped Vitali, and would have mopped the floor with his brother too...

    I would rather get stopped by Mercer than Rahman too, Mercer was a much better fighter and tougher man than Rahman...

    I would put up Morrison's resume anytime against Sanders:deal

    Morrison only lost 3 times in 53 pro fights, and a lot of guy's no doubt passed on fighting him because he was too dangerous...
     
  4. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I did not see any time that Sanders really hurt Vitali, Lennox tore half his face off , if that fight would have kept going Vitali would have lost his eye..

    Morrison nervous student?? he looked pretty calm and cool against big George, who back in the early 90's was kicking everybody's ass...

    Morrison fought distance fight's several times during his career, i guess the only reason Sanders got gassed against Rahman was because he was too lazy to train, and Rahman was just better, im guessing both...
     
  5. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    George Foreman was not a top fighter:-( ummm he will go down in history as a helluva lot better fighter than ANYONE Corrie Sanders ever beat..

    And yea in my opinion Ray Mercer was a better all around fighter than Rahman, i wish they would have met but i'll make that poll someday...

    They had similar careers in my opinion Morrison fought and beat better fighters...
     
  6. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wladimir Klitschko?
    Morrison was a c class fighter who briefly held one of the alphabet titles. He was a complete nothing who struggled against less than credible challenges like Joe Hipp, Michael Bent, Yuri Vaulenn and a shottter-than-shot Carl Williams. Sanders flattens him a round or two.
     
  7. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wow you really believe Klitchko is a better all time fighter than Foreman:lol:

    Maybe you should change your screen name to KLITCHKO JAB:hi:

    Wladimir Klitchko, his fights are too painful to watch, he is the Germany version of John Ruiz, grab and hold, hug, hug, hug, he can't fight in the states because they will DQ his ass...

    Foreman has beaten up HOF GUY'S who would have made Wladimir klitchko run for the hills see Sam Peter Wladimir 1 in 2005...

    I will make a poll on here better ATG Foreman or Wlad Klitchko, Foreman wins hands down...:thumbsup
     
  8. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To start with such a prolific overstatement in your post suggests you have a very weak argument.

    I am a fan of Foreman (that much is obvious) but I am quite confident in saying after all is said and done Klitschko will be higher ranked all time than Foreman, he has already surpassed him in legacy being the second longest reigning hw champ after joe Louis. Yeah Foreman blew out Frazier and Norton 2 guys Wlad would have dominated.

    H2H in their primes, I'd heavily favor Wlad after watching Foreman swinging wildly like a grade schooler against Ali. We all know Foreman's big weakness and that was a boxer who could move and jab, it was those pressure guys that he blew out, that's why he never fought Holmes.

    I'll be looking forward to your poll but the results and comments after the Wlad vs Tyson one I made makes me think this forum is very anti Klitschko.
     
  9. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed.

    I just cannot picure Tommy--who has to come forward to land anything--not eating that straight down the pipe lazer left Sanders threw. Not with that defense.

    And when Tommy gets hit on the chin, those legs give out. Just like Mike Weaver. They get hit on the whiskers and it takes like a nano second for it to reach their knee's and they are listening to the ref count. Funny how those guys don't wobble or dip or stumble but go straight down.

    There was no sparring to prepare for what Sanders did and he had lots of guys sign contracts to fight other opponents instead. Highly avoided guy.

    I saw Morrison struggle far too much with Vaulin to think he handles this guy. He could not solve that guy and the offensive prowess of Corrie is a whole lot different than falling in and flailing away at a Vaulin. Maybe he could handle southpaw Moorer, but I'm not even sure about that. If MM was as tall and with the reach of Corrie, he couldn't.

    But i just don't see Morrison's defense working against the punches Sanders throws early. And Corrie didn't bother setting things up with a jab, which helps. And he had a real viscious right hook when he bothered to throw it. That's another shot Tommy would never see coming.

    A terrific heavyweight gunslinger matchup though. gunslingers and those holsters would be emptied maybe 30 seconds into the first round. And who doesn't want to see those fights?
     
  10. fists of fury

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    Both are great fun to watch. One thing is for sure...this is not going the full distance. In fact, it probably would end before 5 rounds.

    I'd pick Sanders. Morrison had really nice skills, was strong and hit like hell. That left hook was really a beautiful shot. Problem here is that his stamina was awful. Sanders had rather poor stamina as well, but Morrison seemed to hit a wall and fall of a cliff after about 5 rounds.
    Both have durability issues, but for me Morrison has the more fragile beard.

    I think Sanders' southpaw style and movement would create some problems for Morrison and I think he (Sanders) has the right kind of style to battle successfully against Tommy.

    But anything is possible. I pick Sanders to stop Morrison before 6 rounds, but he could well find himself on the canvas before that happens.
    It would be a fun fight while it lasted though.
     
  11. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Morrison is more proven I agree, but don't write off Sanders. The Rahman fight could have gone either way...both guys were shipping big shots.
    The Mashimana fight was Sanders' last fight. I watched it and it was clear that Sanders had regressed terribly even from the Vitali fight, where he was already years beyond his prime.
    He looked simply terrible. Don't put any emphasis on this fight.

    Truthfully, I think lack of opportunity is one of the reasons Sanders didn't have some big names on his record. He was a dangerous fighter with some pretty decent skills.
     
  12. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

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    Imagine a Corrie Sanders with an incredible work ethic, living in the gym doing spartan work - with fairly ripped abs, well rounded conditioning, stamina, and maximized physicality. With Wlad's ethic (and maybe the PEDs if applicable) producing Wlad's general condition - this imaginary fit Sanders probably could have gone in with a blindfold and beat Wlad & Vitali pillar to post before knocking him them out as his boxing instincts, natural two-fisted flow, and offensive mindset, was at such a significantly higher level than the Ukrainian brothers.
     
  13. heizenberg

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    There are a couple scenario's I can see taking place in this bout. I think Sanders has an especially good chance of scoring an early knock out. Sanders had very fast hands and good straight punches while Morrison wasn't very good defensively and to go along with the fact that Sanders fights southpaw and Morrison doesn't have a good chin I think is very likely Sanders would get through with some big power punches early especially the straight left taking out Morrison. But if Morrison can fight through the early rounds and get the fight to around the 5th I think he has a good chance. I think the fight should it go a few rounds would be very similar to the Morrison vs Ruddock fight with both power punchers doing damage to the other I think its almost guaranteed that Morrison would have to get off the canvas at least once but I favor Morrison to pull the fight out should it go passed five as he showed in the Ruddock and Joe Hipp fights the ability to dig deep and score a knockout in a war, Sanders never showed these abilities. Overall I favor Sanders but Morrison does have a fair chance.
     
  14. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I will make the poll SOON, the reason this forum is so anti Klitchko is because of the way he fights, i haven't watched him fight since Haye, 3 long years ago, but all of the grabbing, holding, hugging, etc, isn't real man to man boxing, that's garbage and painful to watch, i will never watch one of his fights again, i heard that his fight with Povetkin was so horrific, that many will never watch any of his fights again...

    I admit i am more biased towards American fighters, because im American, and that's just the way it is..

    By the way Foreman was stopped only once by the gretest heavyweight that ever lived , Wlad Klitchko was stopped 3 times by Purrity, Sanders, and Brewester, tough guy's but not HOF quality, not even close, i would put list of all the guys George beat, against Wlad beat no problem, and we know who will come out on top:good
     
  15. hookfromhell

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    70s Foreman KO2 Wlad. Old Foreman KO 2 Wlad. Old Foreman might get beat up and lose, thats 50/50.