Toney vs Haye

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  1. MattMattMatt

    MattMattMatt Guest

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  2. MrSmall

    MrSmall Member Full Member

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    Toney would kick his ass.
    Speed and power, ok.
    No defense and a dodgy chin against Toney is not very good.
     
  3. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    Toney wins this one for me. Against an old and diminished Holyfield who was still dangerous he just put a systematic beatdown on the guy and looked sharp as hell in doing so. At heavyweight that's the best I think Toney has ever been and Haye at this stage isn't tested enough at heavyweight.
     
  4. Boxfan1

    Boxfan1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Toney wears Haye down and walks him down in the 10th for the ko.
     
  5. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Toney was in good shape for the Holyfield fight, I'll say Toney wins by TKO rds 7 to 10. Same outcome if they fought at CW.

    Hayes best weapon is his punching power, but that won't give Toney problems, because Haye won't land much on the defensive master that Toney is. And even if Haye should land a good punch, Toneys iron chin will withstand it.
    Haye is tailormade for Toney, because he fights aggressive and leaves himself wide open after he throws his punches, plus he has a shaky chin. Toney will counterpunch him silly, bust him up and then finish him later in the fight.
     
  6. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Haye with his speed lands a lot of big shots Toney could be in trouble

    Also Toney is fat so Haye would just pound the body
     
  7. dave

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    Toney loss on points to Peter, enough said.
     
  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I tend to agree with this.
     
  9. MetroMan

    MetroMan With the good people Full Member

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    Toney wins, not even close.

    Toney weighed in less than 220 for the Holyfield fight, he was in shape. This Toney beats Haye. Haye might win now.
     
  10. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, if the fight was now maybe Haye could outwork an old, out of shape and fat Toney. But never an in-shape Toney like the version that fought Holyfield, or Jirov, that's the version of Toney we are talking about. He wasn't fat then. For every punch Haye throws (and misses), he'd eat a couple countershots. C'mon, Toney was near his very best in those fights, he may not be now, but to say that Haye would beat the Toney that fought Holyfield... nothing against Haye, he's a good fighter, the best CW right now and he'll probably do well at HW, but to say that he beats these ATGs... he is way overrated here...

    Plus, Toney would completely own Haye when it comes to trash-talking. Toney is one of the funniest and wittiest talkers in boxing, while Haye just acts tough and gangsta. To me it seems that Haye wants to copy Zab Judah when he talks trash, and he doesn't even do it very good... he can't even embarass Klitschko with his talking...
     
  11. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Toneys a **** heavyweight mate your living in a dream world
     
  12. MGUNZ48

    MGUNZ48 MGunz Full Member

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    I agree Toney is nothing but a fat ass Middleweight with a good chin.
    That is all he ever was? Its only the shitty competition that makes him look a 1000X better than he really is (as a heavyweight). Hayle by one sided UD, or KO if he can land the right hand cleanly.
     
  13. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Toney beats Haye.
     
  14. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Exactly!
     
  15. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    that version of Toney woulda schooled Haye and stopped him. Today Toney is totallly done and would drop a decision. Nobody is knocking him out though.