Toney vs Leonard at MW

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  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    James Toney vs Ray Leonard at Mw

    Who wins?

    Me and my bro was speaking about this today couldnt agree at all, will post more later
     
  2. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    I like Toney definitely by a comfortable UD or even possible stoppage late.
     
  3. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney by late stoppage. James beat the great and slippery Nunn by tko and Mike takes a great shot. Leonard doesn't.

    JT also had the great McCallum in trouble late in their 1st

    I have aboslutely NO FAITH in Leonard as a fighter.
     
  4. black_suit

    black_suit New Member Full Member

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    I think it would be a very boring fight. With Toney not being fooled by leanords "tricks" in the ring. However, depending on where the fight takes place, I see Toney taking a split decision or a draw based on judges bias.
     
  5. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Toney can get the fast MW Nunn out, I think he'll do the same to natural WW Leonard. His unrelenting pressure would wear Ray down.
     
  6. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Disagree wholeheartedly on Toney ko'ing the guy.

    Leonard is not going to fall for the shoulder roll of Toney and leave himself open for counters. And he's smart enough to turn this into a footwork fight and turn Toney in there. And make Toney use those legs and his footowrk to do anything. Leoneard would peck away and throw in ocassional flurries the judges love & he won't fall apart and get tagged like Nunn did. This will look like the Nunn bout except Toney never lands the big one and loses a lopsided decision.
     
  7. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This will more look like Jones-Toney than Toney-Nunn. It will be much, much closer but I still like Leonards footspeed and footwork over the the shoulder-roll and counter-punching of "Lights-out".
     
  8. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    not comfortable for sure. see the jones fight and toney was drained at 160.
    if the severely drained toney shows as in the tiberi , johnson fights leonard just may win another close decision over him. if a relatively in shape toney comes , toney wins a close decision.
     
  9. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, Leonard would present a lot of stylistic problems for James, Leonard by decision.
     
  10. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Leonard in a cake walk.
     
  11. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Yeah, I remember Leonard's chin was so bad he got stopped by Hagler, Hearns, Duran...oh, wait....
     
  12. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was at 168:lol:
     
  14. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In Montreal i recall Duran putting leonard into "Breakdance" mode in the 2nd round with a countering left that impacted 4 of Leonards teeth:D

    We have Kevin Howard dropping Ray + La Londe decking him & Hearns sending him to the canvas twice in the 2nd fight & if Tommy had pushed it he would have stopped Ray but Hearns was gassed out & the bell saved Leonard:deal

    All the young guns would have sorted a MW Leonard out in style hence he avoided them & stuck to the obviously more safer & lucrative senior's tour.
     
  15. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I see leonards speed and movement giving Toney much the same problems he had against Jones and to a lesser extent Nunn. Its a similar match up to Benitez but Toney is bigger/stronger and in my view better. He would start to get to Leonard after the mid rounds and hurt Ray, but I say Ray hanging on for an 8-4 or 7-5 type UD