TONS of tickets remaining for Canelo-Fielding ... will they turn on the lights?

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great. I'll make up a number.

    Let's say 5 million of the 10 million were from the U.S. If you know 5 million are interested, you can take steps to get them to buy the next one. Like not charging $75 for a PPV.

    IF you offer a fight for free in the U.S. and only 15,000 want it ... you're in a helluva lot more trouble. Because you can't do much beyond giving it away for free.

    Have I said that enough in this thread? I've been saying this from the start, right?

    GET IT?

    DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW 10 MILLION PEOPLE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL TO GET YOUR PRODUCT DOESN'T MATTER AGAIN?
     
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    You really want to do this with me? OK I see no point in these numbers, I am not convinced but I've had enough.

    OK what you're saying is 10 million people watched Fury Vs Wilder, that's fine, I've got an article about illegal streams and AJ Vs Parker at the Principality Stadium and the amount of streams and viewers.. this is taken from the article a national newspaper in the UK.

    The quote..


    "Last weekend's fight in the Principality Stadium dwarfs the 7,000 streams that were reportedly showing the Floyd Mayweather/Conor McGregor fight in August. According to estimates, those streams could have been seen by up to 130 million people."



    DWARFED, ESTIMATED 130 MILLION.
     
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    Wilder is SMALLTIME
     
  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thank you. You've finally come around.

    When you want to address the miniscule 15,000 FREE LEGAL streams DAZN was only able to convince people to download for free for Joshua-Povetkin, I'm here for you.
     
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    Right. It means nothing. People who will buy will buy it. Trying to figure out all the people who stole it instead of buying it means nothing to the PPV numbers.

    Most streams sucks in terms of quality. Put on an event that people want to watch and people will buy. You can also forget the ones that would rather watch a stream than watch it in HD.
     
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    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually, the 15,000 DAZN downloads for Joshua-Povetkin is pretty small time for a country you're trying to conquer ... especially when you're giving it away legally for free.

    But good luck in Nigeria. Sounds like he's really popular there.
     
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    No, you are a troll, blatant troll, you have to be, you been embarrassed time and time again and just ignore facts when they are put in front of you, you ignore questions you can't answer and just keep repeating the same lies and logic.

    I've just shown you how small that number is compared to AJ Vs Parker for example, 130 million DWARFED, read the post again, I'll give you the link if you like.

    Does that make any difference to AJ's value? No, it means nothing, those people are not paying to watch him.

    Read the post again, read the quote and tell me I should be impressed by an ESTIMATED 10 million viewers.
     
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    Exactly, I don't understand what he is trying to say.

    I think he is telling me I would go out of business with AJ and Wilder has 10 million viewers desperate to see him.

    Although AJ is selling out stadiums, doing huge PPVs and Wilder can't sell out a small arena and can't break 350k PPV buys.

    But an article says up to 10 million people may hàve watched illegal streams and he is talking like those estimates should be added to the PPV number or something, I'm not sure wtf he is on about.
     
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    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course it means something. It means, like you said, he should go fight in Nigeria.

    That's where his value is. In the UK and Nigeria.

    Because it's not in the U.S.

    His free legal fight against Povetkin merited 15,000 free HD quality takers in the U.S.

    Joshua has a big problem to overcome in the U.S.

    That's probably why he's been scrubbed from all the SUBSCRIBE TO DAZN commercials in favor of Canelo and MICHAEL BUFFER.
     
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    Wilder has had 1 PPV and couldn't break 350k and you are digging out AJ for numbers on ONE PLATFORM, A NEW PLATFORM, IN THE US, IN A FIGHT IN THE UK AND ON UK TIME.

    He wasn't trying to break the US with Povetkin, Wilder was trying to break in to the US with Fury and failed.
     
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    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn't say anything should be added to the PPV.

    I SAID MILLIONS watched Wilder-FURY in the U.S. for free. While THOUSANDS watched Joshua-Povetkin in the U.S. for free even though they could get a quality, HD free Legal stream.

    That's all I've said from the beginning.

    And people who love JOSHUA and can't stand that Wilder-Fury was a success have been spinning in circles flailing their arms trying to do anything to discredit that simple truth.
     
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    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    325,000 PPVs sold at $75 a piece in the U.S. is better than 15,000 FREE DAZN downloads ... any way you slice it.
     
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    So I can count 130 million to AJ's viewing figures?

    Thank you, that's superb, so he is not only destroying Wilder in live gates, PPV, advertising and the rest he is also hammering him with illegal streams.


    And I am aware you are only selecting sentences to try and take my posts out of context and so you don't have to answer any questions or acknowledge any facts, it's a really poor attempt at getting yourself out of the holes you are digging.

    Anyway by your own logic AJ is at least 13x bigger than Wilder, 130 million viewers, if you were negotiating for Wilder you'd be getting him 8%.

    And I'd go out of business? FFS, you are so lost.
     
  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Only if you make it 130,015,000.

    Don't want to short him those 15,000 DAZN free downloads in the U.S. ... where he's never sold a PPV. and can't give his fights away for free.

    Well, he gave away 15,000 for free. Again, don't want to short him on those.
     
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    325K a success? A success? In a country the size of the US?

    Well if that's the case you must believe AJ is a phenomenon?


    And I'll think you'll find most do not love AJ, they just like him more than they like the moron Wilder, the man is a delusional moron, he called the UK boxing fans racist and said the Fury PPV while do over 2.5 million buys..

    tell me he isn't a moron.