Top 15 p4p

I like these p4p threads. I rate the general consensus on ESB slightly higher than the Ring's list- I think the Ring is a bit US-centric

There is no blueprint to beat any of these legitimate Euro level fighters

 

Wlad has beaten plenty of top 20 heavyweights and the only other heavyweight to be placed on this list would be Vitali. I think he's been clearly dominant enough to deserve a spot. I do disagree with Adamek's placement. He did well at Light Heavyweight and Cruiserweight, but other than Arreola, he hasn't really beaten great heavyweight opposition. (much like Haye)

 

Pacquaio doesn't belong in the top 15. I hold fighters to a somewhat higher standard.

 

I am a boxing fan. Who are you?

 

This is a good athlete too. He is in my top 30.

I guarantee that the athletes on my list will beat any of the athletes on your list. I have analyzed this fighters in exhaustive detail. I am confident that you cannot dispute my findings.

 

1.Pac
2.May
3.MArtinez
4.W.Klit
5.P.Williams
6.JMM
7.Ward
8.Donaire
9.Wonjonkam
10.Cotto
11.Montiel
12.JMLopez
13.Gamboa
14.Bradley
15. V.Klit

 

what about Pascal who has a win over DAwson and a draw against Hopkins

 

If Andre Ward had Frochs resume he`d be top 5 on every1s list.

 

1. Pacquiao
2. Mayweather
3. Martinez
4. Marquez
5. Donaire
6. Lopez
7. Bute
8. Williams
9. Montiel
10. Bradley

Honourable mentions - Gamboa , Wlad , Khan , Berto , Cotto , Dawson ...........

 

Not true

Look at Dawson, one L and all of a sudden he is a bum and never beat Adamek, Johnson twice, Tarver twice. And all of a sudden, 80% of posters here have "known" he was a bum for years.

 

herbzg, did you not used to have Pirog in your list?

Did you remove him because he took so many rounds to KO the American Jacobs?

 

How does Pong Won have so many fights? Did he fight loads of guys when he was coming up, or does he just fight every two months?

 

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3. Sergio Martinez
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Wladimir Klitschko

6. Fernando Montiel
7. Nonito Donaire
8. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
9. Vitali Klitschko
10. Miguel Cotto

11. Timothy Bradley
12. Juan Manuel Lopez
13. Andre Ward
14. Carl Froch
15. Lucian Bute

 

Not a bad list to me...

 

He fights like evry two months.. and sometimes against great opposition and then sometimes against bums of the month... it's crazy really...

So true, people threw him and P Will under the bus after they lost, and the fights were closer than people pretend... P Will's fight with Martinez was competitive before he was knocked out.