Tougher opponent for Kessler: Sartison or Miranda

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  1. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    We are talking about the same guy, Amsterdam. I actually used to think he was a decent poster with some good input on boxing. But every since Miranda came into his personal life and ****ed it up, he has gone nuts. Poor guy... Miranda must have made your mama cry... :|
     
  2. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Well, I'm truly disappointed. I always thought that he was more objective than that. I know that Miranda was days from signing when Palle started with his ****. (Credibly backed up by Kessler's manager. :lol: ) I've never heard anyone else say that there was even an offer made let alone that it was just made too late.
     
  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    That's my point, I will wait until I see footage of him. We know what Miranda is made of already, a TV level guy with big power.
     
  4. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    Though, he is exciting and doesn't back down from a challenge. With that said, Abraham is going to take him out.
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Green and Eastman, those are some terribly skilled top 10 fighters there Dave.

    Green was half dead and still gave him a fight.:lol::patsch

    Guys, that fight said plenty about Miranda, Green was weight drained and has never been a fighter with a good chin, yet Miranda could not capitalise on that not because of a lack of power, but because of a lack of skill to get his best shots in and finish the job like a poised fighter.

    My assessment of him is dead on. He's a decent, TV level puncher with a style that appeals to the casual fan, but he's nothing even resembling a challenge to top fighters. Thus why I am not going to comment if Sartison is lesser or better yet, as I have seen nothing of him.
     
  6. Maden

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    Could someone please name me Mirandas three best wins?
     
  7. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I don't personally find him exciting, every fan likes KO's, but he's too sloppy and wild for my tastes. Andrade is sloppy, but poised and controlled and gets his work in intelligently, showcasing tactical prowess, so I can watch guys like that, I can even watch Margarito sometimes, because Margarito can execute a gameplan, Miranda can't.

    Abraham is absolutely going to take him out and then maybe his pansy fan Pantera2000 will disapear for good this time, like he did when Pavlik annihilated Miranda.

    All that being said, Miranda does have serious balls, but he has to take the biggest challenges for the biggest payday's, hoping that his style appeal to most will grant opponents good pay so he can in turn make the most of where he is at, because let's face it, he has 0 chance of winning a real belt at 168 with the crop that is there now. He even lost the first two rounds to David ****ing Banks and struggled with Henry Porras....

    It's hilarious when boxing fans think they know the innerworkings of politics and negotiating.

    I am in no way saying Sartison is a good fight, far from it, but it may not be any worse than a Miranda fight and at least he's getting a belt.
     
  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Sure mate.

    1. Eastman, whom was out of the top 10 and on a losing streak, who has followed up in defeating Ashira close and losing to Elcock. This is his best because Eastman was still a tough fighter.

    2. Allen Green, which would be fair enough, but Green was drained at 162 and his health problems around the time well known.

    3. David Banks. No comment, he KOed the same David Banks the others fought on the contender.

    ...........

    His losses are the real tell. Abraham was beating him until a freak injury, in which Miranda could not stop a man with that hideous injury.

    Pavlik mowed him down like he was a 1 dimensional fighter with no poise and no defence. Done.

    Yeahhhhh, he's going to be a real challenge to top guys at 168.:lol::patsch
     
  9. Maden

    Maden Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have seen Miranda fight Porras, Banks Abraham and Pavlik! And I really don´t understand the massive hype and attention he is getting.

    A crude puncher and nothing more!

    He needs to put on a showing against Abraham to convince me otherwise!
     
  10. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    Come June 22nd you can just STFU!
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Now I see why he skipped Miranda... :-(

    I really like Kessler, but this is a joke. Oh well, guess he can always be the next Brian Nielson. Fail on his one big shot and go back to hometown fights. Hope I'm wrong.
     
  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    You going to vanish again little girl so you don't have to cop any heat?:yep
     
  13. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    Nope. The real question is what are you going to say if Miranda beats the undefeated top quality fighter you think Abraham is?
     
  14. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Isn't that your MO? :roll:
     
  15. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I always stay around to eat crow when called out wrong. Dumbass Lance.