Tougher opponent for Kessler: Sartison or Miranda

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  1. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    I've seen AA on several people's A list and NO ONE has disputed him being there. So, this could be lots of fun. OK folks. Give us your grade on AA and stick to it.
     
  2. Samurai

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    Indeed.

    Maybe the people that think Miranda will be a force at supermiddle should watch this video :

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=qXjnydboXo4

    And notice that he was still stunned with single punches several times by a fighter with a broken jaw who had lost an incredible amount of blood.

    This poll is pathetic anyway. Amazing how much trash talk from a fighter can influence people. Mundine and Andrade are superior to Miranda.
     
  3. TFFP

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    Why do people act like Sartison is **** already? Sure, he hasn't fought a live body, it doesn't mean he hasn't got some talent. Nobody has a ****ing clue :patsch
     
  4. Pantera2000

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    I ask you the same question Amstredam is avoiding... what are you going to say if Miranda beats Abraham?
     
  5. Lance_Uppercut

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    Have you seen him? Can you tell some who haven't seen him what he's like? His style? thanks in advance. :thumbsup
     
  6. Hermit

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    That is why asked for their 'grade' of Abraham. I've seen him listed A several times and NO ONE disagreed.
     
  7. Samurai

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    I'll make a thread, admitting I was wrong (all criticism welcome too BTW) and continue to congratulate Pantera on his victory. A
     
  8. TFFP

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    I havn't seen him, thats my whole point, I don't think anybody has a clue about Borat. We are just assuming he's ****, because he hasn't fought anybody :roll:

    I read up a bit about him, and apparently he's a boxer puncher with a good amateur pedigree. All I know about his competition is he stopped Zamora, who went 12 with Mundine, so he must have a bit off pop too.
     
  9. Hermit

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    Your grade for Abraham please? Serious request.
     
  10. Pantera2000

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    I dont disagree. I am obviously a huge Miranda fan, but after what happened against Pavlik, I have come to my senses. This is going to be a tough tough fight. Abraham is no doubt a badass with A+ power, A+ chin, A+ defense. That is one tough son-of-a-***** to beat. I no doubt, like many of you, have my doubts about Miranda. This is a make it or break it fight to answer those questions. I am not going to be shocked if he loses, like I was with Pavlik, upset, but not shocked.

    I favor Edison since he stayed toe to toe with Abraham in their first fight, yes, even before the broken jaw. Now he is at home in a much more friendly and comfortable enviroment. He is at a much better weight for him (he wasnt sent home and told to return with 2 weeks notice and had to remake weight), and to me he has improved greatly since their first fight, where Abraham looks identical. I talked with a Miranda sparring parnter he had before fight #1 and for this fight and he says the difference is night and day.
     
  11. TFFP

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    B is about right
     
  12. Lance_Uppercut

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    In the absense of actual footage, reviewing the record does tell you a little something. I don't know if stopping someone Mundine couldn't qualifies for pop, but at least it's a little something to note.

    Still, I would rather see a fight with two guys I know, then one guy known and his opponent someone likley never to be heard of again. Look at it this way, if it was Miranda vs. Sartison, and you were FORCED to make a pick, who would it be?
     
  13. Hermit

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    I know. But the people that haven't criticized people for listing AA as being an 'A lister' will come back if Miranda wins now and they will claim he was b- all along. That is why I'm asking for that grade now. It is as much fun to see them NOT respond. :yep Samurai has stepped up. Waiting for others.
     
  14. TFFP

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    Come on, you just grabbed that straw right off me and stamped on it :-(
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

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    The man with the answered may come and go, but the questions will always exist. :smoke