two ton tony vs burt cooper???

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  1. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    huge brawl

    pick your winner
     
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    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    probably go with cooper. even though tony was the better contender. cooper i think is exactly what tony wouldn't want. inside guy who threw a lot of punches while having a decent defensive/countering edge. i dont think tony could get him out of thier to be honest.


    meh."grumble grumble the old days be better ah jim"
     
  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he hadn't been cheated big time twice then Bert Cooper's list of stoppage victims would have been :
    Evander Holyfield , Michael Moorer , Orlin Norris , and who knows who else ? most probably a few other big names and he would have been remembered as 1 of d champions with a big 2 huge upset over Evan Fields .
    He also beat Henry Tillman and stopped Willie De Witt , d gold & silver heavyweight medalists of d 1984 Olympics games .
    Cooper also stopped Anthony Wade who went d full 10 rds against Corrie Sanders in South Africa , d full 8 against Ike Ibeabuchi and d full 10 against Ruddock . Cooper was d only man 2 stop each of Wade and De Witt . I guess that d at least 2 times he was robbed of a well deserved stoppage win discouraged Cooper and led him 2 quit in some of his fights .
    If u were going 2 fight Bert Cooper , u'd better have your gloves torn b4 d fight begins and a cornerman who takes his time in replacing and rewrapping it .
    Tony Galento (however) was a very fat cheater who is praised 4 being KOd by Joe Louis :yep . Y fight Jimmy Bivins or Lee Q Murray if u could fight Tony Galento , Lou Nova and a few bums yet even worse ?
     
  4. jont

    jont Active Member Full Member

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    What happened in the Orlin Norris fight where Cooper was robbed of a KO?
     
  5. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Norris got stopped . Cooper was not robbed of a stoppage vs Norris .
     
  6. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    well burt should be the fav and likely batter two tony

    tony is tough and guys like lou nova and max baer among others were not easy
    guys to fight
     
  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Going with Ser Bert Cooper. better conditioning ( when at his best ), dangerous infighting game, and tendency to throw a lot of shots when opportunity provided. his chin wasn't the greatest, but it certainly took some of the better punchers he fought a lot of shots to get him out of there, while taking plenty in return. My thinking is that this will look similar to Cooper's fight with Joe Hipp.
     
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    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    never saw the fight, but apparently Norris had some sort of knee or ankle injury which haulted the action resulting in a TKO win for Cooper.. Bert was already up on the cards at the time of the stoppage though.
     
  9. Hookie

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    Cooper by KO. They both kinda sucked at times but Cooper sucked less. Cooper was quicker, a better boxer, more explosive, and just better overall. Cooper had more big moments (if not wins) vs. more top fighters than Galento. Yeah, Galento dropped Louis... Louis was down a lot for an all-time great though.

    Cooperhad good moments vs. Mercer, Bowe (for a round), Holyfield, and Moorer in losing efforts. He beat Henry Tillman, Tyrone Booze, and Willie DeWit KO2 in 1987. His best years were after his loss to Foreman in '89 until right after his loss to Mike weaver in '93. During this stretch he beatOrlin Norris Ko8 (Norris injured his knee but Cooper was winning), Joe hipp KO5 (perhaps his best performance), and Rocky Pepeli KO8. He dropped Holyfield and Moorer x2. he also gave Mercer hell.
     
  10. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cooper stopped Hipp due 2 swelling around Hipp's eyes .
    I think Norris' knee problems began in d Cooper fight and he injured it by going down hard . Haven't seen it yet because i couldn't find it but this is what i read .
     
  11. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    You mother****er, I just thought this fight up earlier today :lol::lol:
     
  12. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Talk about a pier six brawl...I don't want to pick a winner, but I would love to watch this one.
     
  13. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    This is going to be a wild brawl that will end in a stoppage, and I'm going to favor the more durable fighter in Two Ton.
     
  14. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    although bert did gas badly at times in the later rounds i think in this fight he would halt galento before the 7th
     
  15. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah i think burt
    shorter more skilled punches win
    in a wicked brawl