Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk is ON

if he looses its marvelous win for usyk and he deserves to be in conversation of best of era as does fury as fury has beat vladimir and wilder thrice so thats more then usyks done even if he beats fury itll be usysks first top level win at heavy

 

I agree whoever wins this has cemented their legacy and some, which is why it’s great it is finally (hopefully) going to happen.

 

Honestly, I don’t dislike Fury at all I think he’s done really well and I loved the Wilder tear ups especially 2 and 3. I do prefer Uysk and would prefer him to win. I think it would be great for the Ukrainian people, who are so unjustly suffering.

Agree David wanted no part of him, I don’t know what happened there, as at the time I fancied him to win and he seemed confident. Maybe his injuries were worse than we thought at that time or maybe he got spooked by Furys team which was rumoured at the time. The cut eye was nonsense.

 

If what gets loose?

 

That’s my thinking Wig regarding the change of style and whilst this Kronk style works against flat footed plodders like Whyte/Chisora or Wilder who’s got limited boxing fundamentals and is easy to set up, can it work against someone with the reflexes, footwork, movement and engine of Usyk? He’s not just going to stand in front of Fury like the other 3 did.

 

How can you rate Furys wins vs Wilder if you don’t rate Usyk win vs AJ. Even you surely can’t say Wilder has a better resume than AJ?

 

joshua has only beat one good boxer who was retiring so two cheeks of same arse wilder is braver more powerful just better hed beat wee Ruiz a hundred times out a hundred

 

The point I am making is you can’t discredit Joshua’s resume but say Wilder is a good win for Fury as his resume is even worse. And saying he would beat XYZ means little, because he hasn’t fought them

 

whats records to do with it use your eyes wilders better than joshua if they fought same folk wilder would be undefeated your blaming wilder for no beating folk hes no been in ring with lol hes only lost to fury joshuas lost to far worse folk is that joshua hanging above your bed in that frame mate

 

You’re the one obsessed with AJ mate - check the constant threads! I actually think Wilder would iron out AJ in a few minutes if they fought. My issue is you use one rule for one fighter, and another for another. Try to be consistent and reasoned with your arguments. If boxing was based solely on the eye tests there wouldn’t be any point in them having the fights. If Usyk hasn’t got any decent HW wins, then you can’t count Wilder as a decent win for Fury.

 

Looking forward to this. Rematch clause is a separate issue...I'm more concerned that the first fight happens.

C Mon greedy belly - get your credibility back.

 

remind me whos wilder lost to except best of era mate

 

Proving my point again. He has only fought one world class opponent and lost 3 times (in the eyes of most) A world class opponent who doesn’t have the best chin yet took his Sunday best and beat him. So perhaps you are right and his power is overrated.

 

your no making any sense bud but crack on

 

"Hypotheticals are the only way to discredit fury since sticking to facts shows he is the undefeated lineal undisputed unified etc champion."

Exactly.

Fury's always been the loser of hypotheticals. He was going in against Chisora 1, Wlad, Wilder 1 and Wilder 2, as well as Price, Haye, Wlad 2 and Joshua. While in the real world he's always won.