Tysons best win ?

Not sure i agree. The thing is if holyfield fought tyson just prior to tyson going to jail...i think he might have beat him. But tyson at his best between berbick to spinks...would have beat them all including holyfield and lewis for me.

The problem was as soon as tyson stopped training the way he had from childhood which was always going to happen he was no longer better than them or not like he was anyway.

Lewis and holyfield had the far better careers but tyson at his best which was pretty short lived was better than them overall.

Even just looking at certain things...like michael spinks for an example. We re talking about a fighter that had proved he was solid. Coming into the ring in absolute fear. Tbf he wasnt the only one. These are boxers have been around a bit as well. A lot of people think it was tysons demeanor...tough talking etc that created that fear in opponents but if that was the case these fighters would be scared of half the so called street thug boxers nowadays. The truth is the fear was created based on what tyson could do and had done in a boxing ring. As i said above his power was short circuiting guys nervous system.

Same with thing like offering 42/1 for a douglas upset. Or whatever ridiculous odds they were offering. Some of that price was based on hype but again can you imagine getting anything like that for holyfield or lewis to beat a live contender. No chance. They were offering it because of what tyson had done and how he had done up to that point.

Nowadays i see accounts of sparring tyson back then. Lewis. Holyfield. I even think i seen glenn mcgrory. Their now down as beating tyson back then or giving as good as they got. I dont believe it. I remember it back then...he was smashing everyone up. No one wanted to spar him. Or no one lasted long with him anyway. Had to get oliver mccall in it got so bad. A guy a lot of people say has the best chin they ve ever seen in their life.

Even just looking at footage of them training back then...tyson was ahead of them all.

 

Kind of agree with few posts on here. Tyson was special no doubt about it. He was under sized but used that to his advantage, he was lighting fast and of course had that killer punch. The 80s guy s were a talented lot in there own ways no doubt but I think tyson caught this generation just the right time when most of them had seen better days. But perhaps if such as bowe, Lewis, holy field, tua etc were the champs and contenders tyson would nt be the force he was.

 

Anything is Possible. But the dawn of the 1990's was a talent stacked period and no one survived it without picking up a loss. Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe, Micheal Moorer, and yes even Mike Tyson ( weather he was at his best or not ) all suffered defeats in that period. Even if a prime Muhammad Ali had been around then and been the very best of them he still might have gotten an "L" somewhere along the line.

 

You better believe it, Tyson wasn't quite the unstoppable monster you want to believe. Holyfield likely always beats him and Lewis is a toss-up. I don't see Tyson calling them liars about their sparring sessions.....

 

I dont think tyson cares about the sparring sessions tbh. He said things like klitcko would have beat him...hes always been over complimentary to guys...in retirement etc. These stories never came up when he was in his prime tho no one disputed it back then. Everyone was too busy calling him the baddest man on the planet.

One thing i ve always disagreed with is that holyfield would have always beat him. I know a lot of people believe that he would have. But its pretty much been based on beating a tyson far removed from his prime years. They were two completely different fighters.

Again i m the first to criticise tyson. Could holyfield have beat him after spinks. Yes. Did he have a better career...yes. does he deserve more credit for boxing...yes. but lets not kid on we were watching anything other than special at 20 years of age.

 

And you believe Holyfield was in his prime years when he fought Tyson? Alright then.....

 

Wind up thread.

 

Holyfield wasnt prime but tyson was finished. Or the tyson we knew at 20 was finished anyway. Night and day between the twenty year old tyson and the one that fought holyfield. Just relied on his power. Even that wasnt the same as it was. Could definetely still punch...but cant remember him short circuiting people like he did at 20. Berbick was knocked down three times with one shot. Tubbs legs went about three different ways. Pretty much every attribute he had deteriorated some badly.

The tyson stories a pretty open and shut case. Everyone knows what happened. I ve got a feeling you dont believe what your saying anyway.

 

Thomas and Tucker.

 

the question is best win, that would be spinks due to the nature of the win.

best opponent from the Tyson Wonder years would be Tucker. That was prime tucker, who almost landed the blue print for beating tyson.

 

A prime Tucker with a broken hand nevertheless.

 

Asser thinks any thread questioning Tyson is a troll thread, best to ignore him....

 

That may be true, but that 37 year old was one of the best heavyweights of all time and would launch a good comeback after the fact. He'd beat a good fighter in Ray Mercer years down the line and give a prime Holyfield a good go through the distance. Yet Tyson was able to tear him a part. But its not just to me the fact that he beat Holmes its how he did it, no one aside from maybe Young Foreman really comes to mind who I think could've been able to destroy Holmes like that at that stage in his career.

The win over Spinks was damn impressive as well, Spinks proved to be a master boxer throughout his career and no one really comes to mind as even hurting him let alone taking him out the way Tyson did.

I also thought his win over Thomas was very good I feel Thomas was motivated and in decent forum for that fight. The Tucker fight was a good one also Tony Tucker was very good through most of his career and especially at the time he fought Tyson, I don''t know how much the hand injury he reportedly had in the fight effected him though.

Still with all that being said I still look to his KO of the veteran all time great Larry Holmes as Tyson at his best and his best win.