Uncle Roger Says, "Floyd Whips Cotto Again"

It is spoken in *****.

 

sheet....arum also hated don king but he was able to make fights with him. during the cold war with dlh/gbp, pac fought jmm2, dlh, and hatton. don't make arum and haymon not being friends like it was a big deal.

....and after the pavlik williams was cancelled, arum negotiated with haymon for the prelim contract on the floyd pac fight.

 

what does haymon have to do with jmm/oscar/hatton?

you mean arum "pretended to negotiate with haymon"....he was really setting up clottey in dallas the whole time.....arum was trying to save face with the public....he had to make a good show of it....but ultimately pac apparently didnt like a 50 percent take a 14 day cutoff to have blood drawn

have arum/haymon fighters worked together since? its been 5 years since arum put on that sham of a negotiation....it was actually pathetic how blatantly obvious what went on there....."oh well we had to have another fight ready just in case that fell through".....yaaaaa....i hear ya man lol

 

the guy has flipped

 

if someone pretended to negotiate, it was floyd and haymon. george peterson confirmed it.

 

lol...the manager/trainer of ANOTHER fighter says something.....and it means its floyd.....yet mannys own trainer and former strength coach both say they "walked from the testing" and "arum is the roadblock".....

yet were supposed to take the word of pwills trainer? lol okkkkk

 

so i guess it was all a smokescreen by floyd and george peterson was privy to this information??? lolol...gimme a break guy......lets even entertain the thought of that for a second....that it was a smokescreen and haymon/floyd were trying to avoid manny.....do you think theyd let GEORGE PETERSON! in on this information????? i highly doubt the trainer/manager of paul ****in williams would be privy to such a plan/scheme

now conversely we have video evidence of mannys own trainer ROACH saying that they walked because of the drug test.....and his former stength coach saying arum is the roadblock.......yet we are supposed to believe GEORGE PETERSON is privy to a haymon/floyd master scheme??? keep in mind peterson never really said anything other than "it aint gonna happen" and because of the link between p will and haymon and bunch of writers decided that was enough to incriminate floyd....lol

you guys kill me...you really do....you really have some of the dumbest logic and reasoning skills ive ever seen

 

...and you just used manny's trainer and conditioner.

peterson was pw's trainer and manager. haymon was the advisor. haymon and peterson had a lot of dealings mid to late 2009 when they were trying to make pavlik-pwill.

g peterson gave the interview when the contract was barely dry and before osdt demand.

 

^^Wasn't peterson the source behind the comment that the fight would never be made? It's been so long, hard to remember who that was.

You *****s are ridiculous. Things spoken in hindsight.... as in they walked once they realized that Floyd had no interest in fighting. As in, cut their losses and move on. But you like to take that as meaning Roach admitted guilt for the team in stopping negotiations. We know how you like to twist things out of context. It's expected.

 

mannys trainer and strength coach hold alot more weight than the manager/trainer of pwill.....

i know who peterson is you dummy...read my posts...he said the fight wouldnt come off...and simply due to his affiliation with haymom it was written by idiot writers that he was privy to some master plan.....as if paul williams trainer/manager would be privy to such information

 

i see you trying to be funny...its cute....i get it! har har

its not takin out of context when they said they walked away from the drug test though....roach said they walked away because of it.....when initially they said they wanted a cutoff date but were willing to do it.....then when floyd said 14 days they ran for the hill.......nothing takin out of context.....was ariza taken out of context too when he said arum is the roadblock?!?!

this idiot dodong thinks because p wills trainer/manager said it wouldnt happen.....its as if haymon/floyd had a plan all along and he knew it.....even if al/floyd had said plan.....who the **** would let this guy in on it? it was loose association used by writers who were anti floyd.....peterson never gave any reasons to back up what he said......it was simply his association with haymon that others speculated on......since his boy p will aint fightin anymore....someone go ask him....hes got nothing on the line or at stake anymore....nothing to hide

peterson is a trainer/manager of another fighter......if ask angel garcia, mike stafford, or virgil hunter if they think the floyd/pac fight will ever happen and they say no.....do we assume they know something because they deal with haymon too?

ill take the words of guys directly in someones camp over speculation from people based on an interview from a guy affiliated with neither camp where he says nothing more than "aint gonna happen"

what if petersons reasoning behind saying that was that he knew floyd was asking for drug testing...and he was certain pac was dirty and theyd never agree to it??? def not saying thats what it was.....but its just as likely....what if petersons reasoning behind is it that he knew their was bad blood between haymon and arum? or floyd and arum?....all he ever said was "aint gonna happen"

 

dec. 4, 2009 post

 

It's true though. Peterson tried to hide his identity. It's been a long time but it did play out just like he said it would, two times.

Oh so you believe Ariza now? You *****s said he was providing shakes, but now he's a credible source on the negotiations?

Btw, IS JMM CLEAN??? We all would like to know since yall are such great doping experts.

 

and again....peterson said "AINT GONNA HAPPEN"....and the loose association between pwill/peterson/haymon was put to use to fit an agenda of someone who wants to believe something

again....what if petersons reasoning was he knew their was bad blood between haymom/arum...or floyd/arum? what if he knew floyd was gonna ask for testing and thought manny was dirty and would refuse? what if those were the reasons peterson said what he did? all perfectly reasonable possibilities.......all you have is his fighter is repped by al haymon so he must know something.....how the hell would haymon leak such info if it were true?

ariza? most credible source? ehhh...thats up for debate....but he and roach are certainly more credible than a manager of another fighter not involved in either camp

what about articles from other writers who say "arum and pac are to blame"....i mean....you take quotes from an agenda piece...."i believe" with 3rd party information....what about when fat dan wrote an article blaming arum after talking to arum directly and quoting him several times? hold any weight....instead you have 3rd party quote with loose association to haymon from a writer writing an agenda piece

 

Haha, you wish Peterson never spoke out huh?

You think Ariza is credible, more credible than someone close to Haymon. Gotcha. Nevermind that Ariza was fired. Nah, he couldn't have sour apples over losing his job and downsizing his position in the sport. Nah, no way.

Btw, you never answered about JMM. I asked pimp like four times, but he kept disappearing. A lot of *****s specially pimp were pushing the doping agenda onto Cotto and siting his consistent acne as an obvious steroid sign.

Does that mean JMM is doping too then? You know, he's at least doing it right by hiring the godfather of US Track and Field doping.