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lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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Barkley being a favourite against Toney when he was forced to drain back down to a weight he was no longer comforable at and had looked on the slide for years is a great indicator of sheer incompetence.I don't remember many thinking he had much of a chance.He barely beat ancient Hearns.

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Where about:

-Monzon-Benvenutti?

Monzon was still an unknown entity and most assumed he was just another southamerican journeyman, but he took Nino to school

-Leonard-Duran II "no mas"

My impression is that after Montreal, most people assumed that Duran was top dog (including Duran himself); but SRL fought in a very smart way, "dominating" the fight because he managed to negate and frustrate Duran up to the point of quitting.

PbP Bacon, Nov 11, 2010

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Pac-DLH
People forget Pac was a huge dog in that one.

globenerd, Nov 11, 2010

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Lockridge-Mayweather
Watson-Benn
Forrest-Mosley

globenerd, Nov 11, 2010

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PbP Bacon said: ↑

Where about:
-Leonard-Duran II "no mas"

My impression is that after Montreal, most people assumed that Duran was top dog (including Duran himself); but SRL fought in a very smart way, "dominating" the fight because he managed to negate and frustrate Duran up to the point of quitting.
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This is another very good one.

Would Lewis-Evander 1 count?, seem to remember Lewis being the slight underdog going in, unless I'm mistaken.

It was a draw but a complete robbery too imo, like Whitaker-Chavez, which I guess could be another one.

DDDUUDDDEE, Nov 12, 2010

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Wasn't Calzaghe the underdog against Lacy?

JukeboxTimebomb, Nov 12, 2010

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JukeboxTimebomb said: ↑

Wasn't Calzaghe the underdog against Lacy?
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Yup, mentioned that one already dude.

DDDUUDDDEE, Nov 12, 2010

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janitor said: ↑

Atlee Churchill 1945!
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great win that and very popular.turpin handled robiinson like a baby in their 1st fight

turpinr, Nov 12, 2010

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Cuevas Espada 1.

Espada was a respected champion and Cuevas was an 18 year old kid with a 17-6 record or something like that and was also coming off of a loss to Andy Price.

Cuevas utterly destroyed him in 2 rounds.

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Charles Williams - Bobby Czyz I

Mark Wills - Greg Page

Jorgen Hansen - Dave Green

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EVANDER HOLYFIELD
TKO11 MIKE TYSON
Las Vegas, 9 November 1996

There were those who feared for the safety of Evander Holyfield when he went into the ring to challenge Iron Mike Tyson in a fight that should have taken place six years earlier.

Holyfield had been unimpressive in a five-round win over Bobby Czyz, a blown-up cruiserweight, in his last fight. And in the fight before that he had been knocked out by Riddick Bowe in their rubber match.

How, then, could he survive against the crunching blows of Tyson?

Iron Mike seemed to have rediscovered his zest for the game after his incarceration on a **** conviction, sweeping to four consecutive victories in a total of eight rounds, which included the third-round bludgeoning of Frank Bruno to win back the WBC title and a one-round blowout over a terrified Bruce Seldon to become WBA champion.

Yet Holyfield seemed serenely confident, not only guaranteeing a victory but even suggesting that people who were down on their luck should bet on him. Tyson said coldly: Im going to have fun in this fight.

The oddsmakers installed Tyson as a 25-1 on favourite but money coming in for Holyfield brought the odds down to 16-1 by the day of the fight.

But while there were, clearly, Holyfield believers out there, the vast majority of the fans and the writers saw this as an early night for Tyson. Hugh McIlvanney of the Sunday Times was one who thought that Holyfield might need protecting from his own bravery, writing: It may be alarmist to suggest that his helpers will need more advanced medical skills than are usually called for in a boxers corner, but the general air of apprehension associated with this fight indicates that it will be stopped the moment Holyfield is seen to be in trouble.

Colin Hart wrote in The Sun: I think Tyson will be more ferocious than ever, and I take him to blast Holyfield away in less than two rounds.

Another longtime boxing writer, Ken Jones of The Independent was of similar opinion. Three rounds maximum, probably sooner, he wrote.

In a pre-fight media poll in the Las Vegas Review-Journal, 47 of 48 writers picked Tyson to win by knockout, with Wallace Matthews of the New York Post, James Lawton of The Express and Steve Springer of the Los Angeles Times all going for a first-round blowout.

Only Ron Borges of the Boston Globe went for Holyfield, by ninth-round TKO. He felt that Holyfield would rise to the occasion and, by sheer determination and willingness to endure, would withstand Tysons early fury and come on to wear down and dishearten a champion who had not faced any serious retaliation in any of his comeback fights.

The quiet words of confidence spoken by Holyfield in the build-up to the bout also impressed Borges.

Holyfield, 34, had always believed that Tyson, 30, was not the same force when an opponent stood up to him and fought back. A fighter who is considered great is tested through trials and tribulations, he told Jon Saraceno of USA Today.

Were not talking about personal life, were talking about boxing. How many trials has this man had? He had one, Buster Douglas. This man has been tested one time and he lost.

And so to the fight itself. The packed 16,000 crowd and millions watching on worldwide pay-per-view television saw Holyfield give one of the greatest displays of boxing, fighting and indomitable will in heavyweight history.

Covering the fight at ringside for Boxing Monthly, I wrote: Instead of being able to impose his will, to dominate and bully an opponent, Tyson found himself being hit cleanly and crisply for the first time since coming out of confinement.

Holyfield dropped Tyson in the sixth, pounded him in the 10th and then overwhelmed him in the 11th, with the referee, the late Mitch Halpern, waving it off after 37 seconds of the round as the underdog landed a series of punches without reply.

I wrote at the time: It was a triumph of dedication, self-belief, the professional application of superior technical resources and, as Holyfield said afterwards, spiritual strength.
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:smoke

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Nice, great read dude.

A lot of these seem so obvious in retrospect, just goes to show you can never be certain, in this sport especially.

DDDUUDDDEE, Nov 12, 2010

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Berbick-Page.

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Salvador Sanchez -Danny Lopez I Sanchez was unknown at this time while Danny Lopez was almost a house hold name(always fighting on national Tv) and considered a great by many experts

Michael Spinks-Larry Holmes I in the first fight he had his way with Holmes... Many including myself thought Holmes was gonna go right thru him

Buster Douglas- Mike Tyson suprised this hasnt been mentioned.

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Boxed Ears said: ↑

Toney was a big underdog against Iran Barkley and that was a masterpiece clinic by Toney.
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I now hate myself. I didn't remember this thread at all and clicked here just now to say this same thing again...The record is broken.

Boxed Ears, Feb 14, 2011

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