Usyk targeting Wilder?

Just to be clear, I didn't actually say either fight was a complete shutout... But they were scored closer than they actually should've been, IMHO.

Fury won a few rounds clearly, some others were competitive but clearly Usyks... And some were undeniably Usyk rounds.

Overall Usyk won both fights clearly enough that there's no room for any controversy - Fury did fine, but he'd have had to consistently do quite a lot better to have any cause to believe he actually won.

The official cards were generous to Fury without being completely outrageous - both fights should've been clear UD's, though.

 

Not everybody , just usyks promoter .

probably for damage control to hide the parker and kabayel duck .
Is this still a boxing forum or an usyk fanboy forum ?

Wilder did NOT called out usyk . Usyk,s promoter called out wilder !

 

Let's forget the word shutout when it clearly didn't apply to either Usyk-Fury fight.

 

Who said he was afraid of anyone...... I simply said that Wilder as a brand or "known name" doesn't have the same value as he did 4/5 years ago due to his last few performances. He's not the only known name in the division. He may be a big name in the U.S. because he is a product of the country, but his value to the sport isn't significantly bigger of the other competitors at the top of the division. He has been exposed multiple times by even less than elite talents. The marketing factor for making him the scariest puncher has been debunked multiple times now. Hell, not long ago, he was punched into a full 360 degree turn before being stopped.....He's never been a great boxer. He's never had even an average IQ.... So how do you sell a fighter who was built up to be a scary puncher, when no one is scared of his punches.

 

LOL...... Typing in all caps doesn't make your point or stance any stronger than the first time you said it. It still doesn't change the fact that the perception going into the fight was that Usyk was the favored talent. That's not just me suggesting that. Vegas, the boxing analysis, even his peers, etc.....shared this same prediction.

Getting all emotional because I pointed that out is hilarious to me. If your goal is to prove that my opinion doesn't matter TO YOU, that's cool, but if that's the case, why are you having this exchange with me then..... But in case you are knew to this sport and sports in general.....PREDICTIONS on the outcome of a match up, game, etc.... is a huge part of what makes the sport. Thus we get RANKINGS and such....... And in the moment, I remember Usyk being the favored by the mass, over the names I mentioned. It's not to discredit the opponents, just stating most didn't expect them to come out on top and hindsight......we see they did not.......

 

Where have you been?...... This site has always been a huge Usyk love fest, thus if you say anything that isn't praising the existence of Usyk to the sport, then you are met with ultimate push back.

But, yea, Wilder shouldn't even be mentioned in an opportunity at any world title ever again.

 

"Open to" just means some reporter asked them about it and they didn't shoot it down outright. That isn't the same as Usyk specifically "targeting" Wilder.

 

The fight would not sell well.
Wilder is 2-4 in his last 6 fights, in almost 6 years. His wins are Helenius and Herndon. He's been stopped very brutally in 3 of those losses, the other loss was shutout . He's 40. He was never a massive draw.

 

The only thing ignorant is you coming here with your emotions rather than understanding the facts I pointed out. Predictions is a part of the sport. If that's false then explain to me how it is we get the numbers from Vegas and other betting sites. You not caring about my opinion is fine. I'm not one who tries to hold my opinion over the next individual as if I should be valued above the next man..... Apparently your emotions have you thinking that way.

Stop playing victim baby girl. If you are annoyed with my opinion, you could simply just STOP RESPONDING TO ME. In case you forgot, you jumped into the conversation I was having with another poster. No where did I beg you to step in and provide your 'expertise' to the conversation. Maybe you should learn to deal with your own ignorance and arrogance...... Then you will understand that the world is full of opinions and just because you disagree with them, doesn't mean they have less value. Especially if that opinion is based off of the actual numbers from a prediction of the outcome of the fight in question........(predictions are opinions if you didn't catch that).

So back to the FACTs.......Usyk was favored over each of the names I mentioned..... That is based on what the over/under was at the time of the bout...... Regardless of have I personally predicted the fight to turn out. Why does that information hurt your feelings so much, I will never know and don't care to.

Moving on........ unless you have some more emotions to pour into this discussion that you want me to respond to.........

 

It would be a protracted, clinical beatdown. Kind of like Floyd vs Gatti. Not sure I'd watch it, but sure there's a market for it. I can't believe either of them needs the money, but maybe Wilder can convince himself that he'll win? I dunno. Not excited to hear this , but also not surprised.

 

I'm tedious, but you are the one too goofy to understand that my comment was made based on what was projected of each fight, not because I simply just thought they he was better than those fighters. Pointing out that someone was favored isn't MY OPINION. It's was pushed while marketing the match up. Canelo gets credit for beating champions like Danny Jacobs, Caleb Plant, Callum Smith, etc..... because they are good wins, but it doesn't change the fact he was favored in each of those fights. That has nothing to do with my opinion, because in that scenario, I prediction was in favor of Danny Jacobs in real time. Same with Kovalev.

Proof of your emotions is that you can't let it go and are unwilling to face the reality I put in front of you. So if your public school struggling tail is tired of reading too many words without pics to keep you entertained, then stop replying to me. It's that simple. It's not like I'm chasing you and demanding your conversation. As I pointed out.....I WASN'T TALKING TO YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE. You came to the conversation, but now want to complain I'm using too many words. It's called a conversation. Quoting Shakespear (I believe that quote is from Hamlet if I'm not mistaken) is suppose to make me shut?........lol.

You aren't reading my "silly, long-winded posts"......but you are still responding to me..... A stance an ex girlfriend would take because they just want to be heard...lol. As I said.....Move on then..... Or are you also the type to fight til you get the last word so you can feel you accomplished something?......lol.

 

Almost no one in the USA knows who Wilder is. Walk up to ten random people at a supermarket and you'll be extremely lucky to find one who knows Wilder. Actually be extremely lucky to find one who knows any active boxer.

 

It's sad how true this is. Most who are mildly entertained by boxing in the U.S. mostly talk about greats whom are no longer active more than the current gladiators participating in the sport (Floyd, Tyson, Ali, etc...). And if they do mention an active boxer, it's often times someone born out of the U.S. like Canelo....