Valero about to add to Pac’s Legend

even if Pac unifies from lightweight to heavyweight his blind haters will still never give him credit

 

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An already faded version of Morales mind you. We saw what happened in the first fight, with a nearer to prime version.

This was the same Morales that was losing to Raheem, hardly as big a feat as you make it.

The second fight was unimpressive, the first fight being Pac's biggest win by far, as it could at least be argued that Barrera was prime, though definitely not in that particular fight. Hell, a far more faded version fought better in the rematch, which should give you a sense of just how "on" Barrera was the night of the first fight.

If you count his fights over JMM as actual wins, which many(myself included) do not.

You're simply stating random facts regarding fights you've already discussed. Virtually everything you've said has to do with those 3(1 of which he didn't legitimately beat, 2 of which were past their prime).

He started at 106 pounds as a teenager, he wasn't fully developed, and he accomplished nothing early on aside from being embarassingly KO'd by a few no-names. You act as if he won titles and dominated at each weight class between those weights, which clearly isn't the case. His top wins are Sasakul at Flyweight(whom he was getting handily outboxed by before Sasakul got careless), Ledwaba at 122 whom he far out-sized, and the afore-mentioned wins. You act as if he dominated at each weight, when the bulk of his accomplishments are from 122-130. Guys like Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson would've given him an absolute pasting and KO'd him at Flyweight.

You mean "KO'ing Edwin "The Can Opener" Valero". Valero is awful technically, his power being his only strong point, and even that has yet to be tested at elite level. Any top notch fighter would take Valero out.

I was unaware that Hatton was a Welterweight "King". And this is yet to be seen if he is capable of accomplishing this. Of course he'll continue to avoid the top guys at LW, instead relying on his win over Diaz as proof that he "conquered" the LW division.

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Sweet Pea that ain't fair.

 

Don't you worry what others think, as long as Pac keeps winning he'll have fans like you!

 

Pacquiao's quality of opposition = The Best in boxing today.

 

Pacman would roll Hatton.
he had a hard time with lazcano, just think of how bad pacquiao will **** him up

 

I have no problems with anyone calling Pacquiao a great fighter. However technically inferior to certain greats he may be, he makes up for it and has carved out a very nice career for himself. I do however, have a problem with you comparing any of his feats with those you quoted in the first paragraph. That's absurd, and you know it.

And please don't compare Pacquiao to Armstrong, I don't want to have to "inform" you again, but I will if neccessary. What Armstrong did in a 3 year span was FAR more impressive than anything any Pacquiao or Mayweather(or really pretty much any fighter) has ever accomplished.

 

Nah . . . Valero is not somebody who's gonna be a big addition to Pac's resume. He is a dangerous fighter with power that's all . . . if Pac beats him then Pac simply stops the Valero HYPE . . . no big deal.

. . . buuuuuuuuut if by any means he beats Pac then a new boxing sensation has been born.

 

Take a pill kid, I'd say you're reading a bit much into it, considering you were the first to taunt.

And? How many fighters have they done that for?

De-frauding your post was drivel? Really? Considering the following posts from posters not involved in the argument, I'd say they agreed more with me than you, laughably so.

And I've got some advice for you, don't take it too seriously and personally when someone tears your boxing views to pieces, you brought it on yourself.

 

Sorry Pharoah, but Valero isn't an addition to a legacy. As much as you Pac fans want to try to overblow every win he gets, Diaz's and Valero's are just not serious legacy additions. Now a Joan Guzman or a Nate Campbell and the like certainly would be, so 'get real' with stating that people wouldn't give him credit if he actually unified LW, that would be insanity for him to do such.

 

What good does beating Guzman really do for Pac? What's Guzman done since leaving jr.FW? Beating Humberto Soto? Well, it's a good win. But what else? If Pac beat him, all he'd do is beat a guy who was bad ass @ 122. You don't see Hopkins wins over Tito or DLH as anything at all. Why is beating Guzman a LEGACY win for Pac?