Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Nicholas Walters RBR

Definitely, and the quit job robbed us of the complete arc of the story. Walters connected a few shots here and there, he still could have raised his profile even if he was outgunned (losing to great fighters is ok)

I think Loma is the best I've ever seen, you will never catch me being an obnoxious troll about it but wow just wow that was scary good

Maybe the only critique you could possibly say is he started to get a little reckless there at the end, but obviously he knew that Walters was at the end of his rope so he was very clearly trying to take his heart right then and there.

Loma is the whole package, i'm honestly sitting here in awe, trying to think of when I've ever said that before in 30 years

 

I'm willing to give Walters a bit more of a pass than most.

Walters was mentally broken, and was honest enough to admit it. I'd rather that than watch someone ship unnecessary abuse, or spend their time looking for ways to exit during combat. He wasn't coming back, and everyone knew it.

And, I'm going to hold off on referring to Loma as being an ATG for right now...But he's certainly Top 5 p4p and seems to be on the best form out of anyone who's on the list at this point.

 

I don't class that as a quit job, it was more like knowing you have absolutely NOTHING and you CANNOT win.

Walters would have needed a gun to win that fight last night.

Why would he take another 5 rounds of punishment or get laid out when HE KNOWS he simply cannot win?

 

Because of a little thing, known as a punchers chance, coupled in with the heart of a champion which he clearly did not have. He made me and a few others look like fools, simply because he lacked the heart to test himself.

 

"Puncher's chance" is often shorthand for "no chance".

The fighter knows his limit better than you do. If he can't reach someone , can't hurt them on the rare occasion that he does and is taking a pasting to boot, he's well within his right to pull the plug. With Gutknecht in a coma, I'd rather someone err on the side of caution than see someone else get hurt.

 

It was like donaire put it, "knock me down, but I would never quit!" Some people have it, and others dont. Donaire has heart, Walters unfortunately didn't. This isn't coloring In there, this is the fight game. The fighters know exactly what they get themselves into, so I can't take the same approach as you, all the time.

 

There's nothing wrong with quitting if you're getting beat up, that's absolutely fine. Walters quit at the first instance he was starting to get tagged up, I'm sorry but there's no excuse for that, it's boxing, you're going to take some punches and possibly be hurt, if you quit like this it looks like you don't have the mentality for the sport honestly.

 

Donaire was criticized after the Vetyeka fight for taking the easy way out in order to get a TD. So, he might not be one to talk...

Anyway, the fighters are the ones taking the risks. And sometimes, they don't realize the extent of how badly they might be over-matched until they get in there. Once they do, they can be forgiven for deciding that it might not be worth their entire career to take a protracted beating.

 

Well...Duran quit in a fight where he was shipping less abuse than Walters did...And no one said he didn't have the mentality for the sport. Walters quit because he was being outclassed and didn't have an answer- and if you know that's not something you can change then quitting is understandable.

 

No one says anything because Duran proved himself so many other times that it's hard to judge him off of that single blip in his career. And I don't agree, I don't think you should quit because you're being outboxed, it's one thing to quit because it could physically damage you another when you're just being a sore loser and can't handle being outboxed.. And I mean it may have come to the point where he was getting hurt, at least let it come to that THEN quit, not before.

Look at how much these dudes get paid as well, you can't just quit like that, you owe it to the fans and everyone who paid for the fight to try as hard as you can.

 

walters was trying to run out of the ring by 6. lomachenko is just getting better and better

 

I dunno man. Walters didn't look all that great at the end of the seventh, and didn't seem to have his legs completely under him. Neither of us know for sure how Loma's shots were affecting him. I'm just willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt and focus my attention more upon Loma's performance than Walter's inability to deal with him.

 

Yeah, he started to look a bit shaky there but this was the first time in the fight that it happened and it was at the end of the round. Come out the next round at the very least, if he really does continue to get dominated the same fashion, pull him out then, nobody would have said anything. Don't quit at the first sign of trouble.

 

It's one paced. Pomomarev was more aggressive than usual, though. Ortiz landed the occasional shot off the ropes to make it watchable and keep him from getting overwhelmed but mostly it was all Ponomarev.